Not a shock. Doc likes having Kara around but is intimidated enough by her that he's unlikely to ask her out. Crumble on the other hand thinks differently.

Kara is old school. Doc has his woman so he is out of the picture. Plus, I think there are laws against Kara and Doc hooking up. And another thing, Eve was a "nanny" to Kara when she was little. There are too many issues that it would be waaaaay to "Springerish". It just turns my stomach just thinking about it.

Next on the list, patenting a perpetual motion device!

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So are we just advancing the scene to the next day and playing through or will it be narratively summerized. Like Whisper Im not sure where to go with the scene as it neccesitates a lot of exposition and Q & A from the veterans. However, I have been enjoying the general philosophical discussions (aka kibitzing )

yes we are advancing the scene to the next day, simply for the fact that it is unreasonable to assume you will get the whole story in one day. We can resume the kibitzing in the advanced thread.

Cool...looks like Whisper grabbed the ball and ran (I do like the way you think chica! Bring on the perks!!!)

Cool...looks like Whisper grabbed the ball and ran (I do like the way you think chica! Bring on the perks!!!)
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INDEED.

So the current talk with Wisper is the next day, but on the same thread?

Answered in the post, forget I said that.

Doc, you must be putting in way too many hours at work. You are starting to sound like me. =)

Work has been intense recently and I now also have a second job.

Two Jobs!! OUCH!! Well I hope you have some Red Bull stock or at least a starbucks in walking distance. I know that if I didn't have my daily dose of caramel frappuccino's and the extra whip cream, I wouldn't make it through the day.

Quick question:

Have Richard, Rama, and Whisper had explained to them ICly exactly what the Ban is/does? There are some things that Richard would like to know, but I don't want to be meta-gaming by accident.

They are in the process now IC, getting it told to them.... at thi s point, any news you want to tell them OOC can be said and considered immediately IC.

Asche (ask Kara and Kaelan and some of the others like Chronos) is a mega intelligent primal. Who is to say the above is not something planned by him.

And I dont say this to placate the distrust of Richard, it is good not to have blind trust in a person..

But something that lends itself well in this medium is mega-intelligence.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->it is good not to have blind trust in a person..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> For some reason, I (at first) read that "It is not good to have trust in a blind person."

Which, obviously, made absolutely no sense in the context.

You were told about the Ban and given a brief overview before the scene change. Assuming you wanted to follow up on this (which is a good assumption since that's what Doc (the mega-salesman) and the others IC wanted you to do), you could have easily looked up what has been written about it.

'nother quick question:

What exactly is Pax Con? I'm assuming it has/had something to do with Caestus Pax from the talk in the War Council thread, but beyond that, I don't know.

Narrator would you like to take this one or should I? I think there is a narrative on Pax Concordant in the time line page.

The short answer from Doc would be that Pax Con is the name of our merry little band... actually its the name of the "corporation" (actually a front company) that inducted Doc and most of the rest of us. Doc isn't sure (nor does he care) whether or not Kara predates the name and considering the nature of a time war it might not be a question with one answer. Doc also isn't sure (and again, doesn't care) whether Pax (the nova) took his name after the corporation.

Pax Con predates Cestus Pax by about 4000 years. It has nothing to do with Cesus Pax.

Didn't someone mention that Pax Con was narrators version of The Technocracy (Techno-mage conspiracy on a reality level.)

Very closely related to the Technocracy. Difference is that the Technocracy is mage based where Pax Con is alien/primal based. They actually worked together for some time but the objectives of Pax Con and the objectives of the Technocracy differed at times.
Did the narrator explain to you about the bloodline?

Except for the same name and he worked for PU which worked with (or perhaps for) Pax Con.
The issue I was raising was whether Pax was named for Pax, & not the other way around.

Pax's genetic alterations a very long time ago which eventually bloom into novas.

Except for the same name and he worked for PU which worked with (or perhaps for) Pax Con.
The issue I was raising was whether Pax was named for Pax, & not the other way around.

Pax's genetic alterations a very long time ago which eventually bloom into novas.
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What is PU? I know that I should know what it stands for but sorry, I am just having a blonde moment.

Did Asche tell you that? The reason I ask is because the bloodline involves much more than just novas. The original history did not involve novas in the bloodline.

Except for the same name and he worked for PU which worked with (or perhaps for) Pax Con.
The issue I was raising was whether Pax was named for Pax, & not the other way around.

Pax's genetic alterations a very long time ago which eventually bloom into novas.
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What is PU? I know that I should know what it stands for but sorry, I am just having a blonde moment.

Did Asche tell you that? The reason I ask is because the bloodline involves much more than just novas. The original history did not involve novas in the bloodline.
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PU=Project Utopia. Pax is latin for "Peace" Caestus Pax therefore meant something along the lines of "The Mailed Fist of Peace." Pax Concordant obviously has something else to do with keeping the peace. I am pretty darn sure they arent related. So Asche and his fellows are in someways the parents of novadom? How does Divis Mal fit in? In canon terms *he* is the one who sets off N-day with his Quantum Mastery powers...

Funny Kara...I didn't know you dyed your hair brunette

Divis Mal did set off N-day. That has not changed. But wouldn't it be great if someone else did the same thing that was not bent on subjecting all baselines to slavery?

You know a girl is always changing her hair style. I decided to go blonde for the summer.

Well, technically speaking Divis doesn't want to subject baselines to slavery. In fact I am sure he would be grateful if he never had to deal with baselines ever again. Though I must say that opening the can of worms that is the debate over Teras is *not* something I want to derail this thread with!!!!

Just make sure you stay on top of those roots!

Who will ever understand the mind of Divis Mal? Who would want to?!

Of course my roots never show...

Pax Concordat or Pax Con is the name of the organization that Asche and Eve founded to train and equip earth for the incursions brought on by the temporal tampering, some of the tempering was directly caused by Asche so it was his way of trying to fix things. Pax Concordat means "Promise of Peace" or literally "Peace Covenant".





Except for the same name and he worked for PU which worked with (or perhaps for) Pax Con.
The issue I was raising was whether Pax was named for Pax, & not the other way around.

Pax's genetic alterations a very long time ago which eventually bloom into novas.
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What is PU? I know that I should know what it stands for but sorry, I am just having a blonde moment.

Did Asche tell you that? The reason I ask is because the bloodline involves much more than just novas. The original history did not involve novas in the bloodline. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cestus (Caestus) Pax may have taken his name from Pax Con but he never knowingly worked for Pax Con, even though Pax Con indirectly ran PU (Project Utopia) through the Protectorate division.

As far as Pax Con being the Technocaracy I will only say a misguided 'YES'.



The Blood line mentioned so much as dear to Asche and House Rathein is the bloodline that will lead to the common ancestor that becomes the Rathien people. It is not referring to the bloodline that will become nova's necessarily. But the most recent delopements was the discoveries that Asche saw to it that no small number of the Bloodline would erupt. Erupt not into galaxy shaking juggernauts for the most part, but erupt into something that would protect and cherish the precious heridity, some call the bloodline nova's half heartedly 'stealth-novas' because by first glance one would not easily tell they are super.

<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Pax Concordat or Pax Con is the name of the organization that Asche and Eve founded to train and equip earth for the incursions brought on by the temporal tampering, some of the tempering was directly caused by Asche so it was his way of trying to fix things. Pax Concordat means "Promise of Peace" or literally "Peace Covenant".<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->This reminded me of the passage I read that was part of what made me question Asche. I actually found the passage I was redering to. Here it is:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Anelonians observed the arrival of the Rellons and the implantation of the metavirus. To assure that the Rellons that monitored the development from afar never were alerted to a change in the viral pattern, the Anelonians did not remove it from the DNA stream at that time. Instead, they remained and slowly introduced another ?program? into the Humans DNA that would hopefully, in due time, annihilate the virus at the same point that it erupted in the gene pool. After seeing to it that the program was going as planned, the Anelonians left to return to their own time, all save a select few who would remain and hunt the remaining Rellons. After the Anelonians were relatively confident that the Rellons were gone from this timeline, the rest left. Save one. This one person remained to make ABSOLUTELY certain the metavirus never developed. Somewhere along the way, that same person got a little too emotionally involved in his job.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

So it sounds like Asche is basically one of the good guys who made some mistakes along the way the way most people do. However there was that one conversation (cant remember if it was PM or IM) where Narrator said that there might be some upcoming upheavals in the way the PCs percieve things...Some of the others have alluded to the idea that banning weapons might not be a bad intention, only the way its is carried out (murder) and the hypocrasy of it. Just food for thought.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As far as Pax Con being the Technocaracy I will only say a misguided 'YES'.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->As in the canon Technocracy, with the 5 conventions (ie New World Order, Iteration X, The Syndicate, The Progenitors, and The Void Engineers) and the Pogrom against The Traditions of The Council of 9, Sending in Hit Marks and Men In Black, and Autocthonia the Machine Realm (and other Horizon Realms) etc etc ect...???
THAT Technocracy?????
That stuff is *pretty* dark in tone (being the WoD) and all and very conspiracy like.

(BTW for those of you (*ahem* BN...) who haven't played Mage: The Ascension (The old storyteller version not thae crappy new "lets just change the names around and rewrite the rules for no better reason than we need to sell more books...sheesh!) you really should go check it out. The Ascension War is one of the most compelling roleplaying games ever written IMHO and its freeform magic rules are nothing short of a visionary breakthrough)


<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Blood line mentioned so much as dear to Asche and House Rathein is the bloodline that will lead to the common ancestor that becomes the Rathien people. It is not referring to the bloodline that will become nova's necessarily. But the most recent delopements was the discoveries that Asche saw to it that no small number of the Bloodline would erupt. Erupt not into galaxy shaking juggernauts for the most part, but erupt into something that would protect and cherish the precious heridity, some call the bloodline nova's half heartedly 'stealth-novas' because by first glance one would not easily tell they are super.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

So some of us might actually be related to House Rathien? Or was that only in this one timeline? On a related note, is there only 1 Asche or is he present in many different version of parrallel realities...ie is he singular as an entity in the timestream or does he exist throughout it?

lots and lots and lots of questions... Have you been hanging around Doc???

Actually he's the one who invited me to join this game-world! We romp around other dimensions together over at the Eon forums...

This reminded me of the passage I read that was part of what made me question Asche. I actually found the passage I was redering to. Here it is:
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The Anelonians observed the arrival of the Rellons and the implantation of the metavirus. To assure that the Rellons that monitored the development from afar never were alerted to a change in the viral pattern, the Anelonians did not remove it from the DNA stream at that time. Instead, they remained and slowly introduced another "program" into the Humans DNA that would hopefully, in due time, annihilate the virus at the same point that it erupted in the gene pool. After seeing to it that the program was going as planned, the Anelonians left to return to their own time, all sav