This thread is for general OOC stuff.

Speaking of OOC stuff. I'm still trying to find the perfect Avvie, the current one is not quite what I'm looking for.

Yeah, if anyone sees anything that matches Jael, Davian or Alexis, give me a ring. I'd be happy replace any of those with something other than the chibis, and I think that Davian's player wouldn't mind, either.

Thanks,

Dawn

Yeah, I'm right there, too. No avatar I've found yet works for Rena. Anyone sees one lying about, let me know.

Ok I screwed up and forgot that the School Caledar for Japan is very different from the American one... I believe I have caught all the references, but Ryusei is technically still a Junior in highschool. sorry for the screwup.

Ok, just a feeler out there...
I'm thinking I'm going to put together a character who is a hardline Teragen member with all the "novas aren't human", "nova rights" and "self determination" lines in the world, but without the "monstrous creature" or "devil-may-care thug" parts.

For those who are familiar with Teras, Portent.

His basic thing is that he uses social prowess and taint/quantum modification powers to underline just how different novas are from the rest of humanity.

(Thinking some mega-socials, chimeric aberration/aberration transfer, node spark, maybe if someone lets it happen I can pull down Quantum Authority--assuming mods allow Quantum 6 in the first place)

Anybody be interested in starting up a line with him as soon as I get a sheet put down? Right offhand I think he would take a very strong interest in the story with Flicker being suspended for not dorm'ing down.

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If anyone's interested, fairly low taint, especially for a Terat. 2-3, tops

Anyways, it's a thought.

Quantum Authority has a Q-Min of 7, Level 4 power.

Which faction of the Teragen?

As a side point, I don't think the mods will allow Q6 to begin. None of the boards do, to my knowledge.

Sorry for the short posts, by the way.

Right, I'm not aiming for anything that high to start with. Quantum Authority would be a capstone, as opposed to a central aspect. More Node Spark / Aberration Transfer than anything.

As far as faction goes, I would have to check it over again but from what I remember, I'm kinda torn between the Casablancas(small, but stylish) and the Cult of Mal.

Ah... the Casas. The wussy Terats.

I have a character on the 2018 boards who went Terat after his 2008 eruption. If he were to follow the same path in 200x, he'd end up in the Primacy in about three years. However, he's not anywhere near there yet; as of today literally, he's just a frightened kid hating himself for killing babies.

I hadn't even considered the Primacy, actually... I probably should take a look at them. Because of Shrapnel I end up lumping them in with Nova Vigilance.

Right, but Q6 is the max for these boards, and it's only available on approval, so Quantum Authority would be nigh-impossible to achieve in this format. I don't want to rain on any parades, but that particular aspect of the character will probably need some revision before it'll work here.

Eh, I'll cry. Ok, so I won't.

Edit: Wow I sound offended/hurt in this post. Ah well, the things that you lose when tone of voice goes away. We're all good here :P

Don't sweat it, there's a ton of other options.

Oh I am well aware, Authority was more icing than actual substance. It just leaves me with more area to spread my stuff around elsewhere. I figure only three(maybe 4) of the most powerful novas in the world have Q6 or higher at about this time. Divis Mal with his 8, Caestus Pax, and I believe(though no stats have been given) Antaeus and Scripture.

Not having Q Authority isn't worldbreaking, or even denting. If anything it's less Quantum-based Taint that I have to worry about.

Heya Hyoseph, I just thought I'd give you a heads up. Your concept and the concept for Jason Grant are very similar as far as power themes go. Jason manipulates Nova quantum fields (disrupt, disimmunize, q Imprint, q Forgery, yadda yadda) The original character even had Quantum Authority.


I'm not saying don't go there, I just wanted you to know you wouldn't be the only one with this rough power theme

Cheers.

Careful with Terats in regards to one thing: Chyrsalis.

I don't see anything in the Bible that would suggest Chrysalis allows you to surpass the NP caps. Could make it kind of hard to work with.

Or completely an RP issue. Your character does the butterfly because it's what he or she would do, for their next step. You don't cap out completely, and can go to cap in Chyrsalis. If you allow them to up their cap because of that, we'll end up with lots of people going into a Chyrsalis every six months.

Brainwaves -- Is this in play?

No. Yes.

(Edited by myself. I was thinking of something else. Sorry!)

Good times, thanks
If I ask a lot of random questions, is so that the things I try to do are actually legit.

I've been looking for a way to make non-quantum powered gadgets (frankly because the rules for gadgeteering are irritating, and the price of failure is death by massive amounts of exploding bashing damage) However, if quantum is the way, then quantum is the way.

Was just checking out Dr. Aeon's sheet on a whim. I noticed a strength applied to Clone but there is no weaknesses purchased to allow this...

Thanks for pointing that out for me. I bought it as a seperate Strength for 3NP but forgot to record it on the character sheet. I'll take care of that right now.

No problem. However I would point out that you are still only allowed to buy strengths with NP if you have weaknesses (unless people here rule otherwise). If you are going to pay 3 NP then take 3 points of weaknesses and buy the actualy duration extra for Clone (in the APG) which lets them exist for days on end....

I am referring to pg.143 of the APG, Second Paragraph, which says,
"you can buy strenghts independently at half the cost of one level of the power (round up)."

Mind you, I'm using the Clone description on pg.63 of the APG. If you want to help me find five levels of weakness, I would appreciate it.

Hmmm..for some reason my previous post didn't go through.

I said, Ah! I stand corrected! Carry on...

Dr. Aeon, there's nothing next to Stamina...

Also, you are very Charismatic and very witty, but you have no Ettiquette. That's very unusual, and I suspect hard to play. Not impossible, but kinda hard to be that likable when you have no tact.

Fixing that. I kind of rushed this one. Thank you Mania. Charisma is only a two, as is Stamina. Socially, Aeon is capable of expressing himself very well, but not very socially adept.

Aeon, I made a note on your sheet in the character topic. You don't show a value for Stamina, and you are very charismatic and Witty for someone with absolutely no tact whatsoever. Hint, take a couple dots of etiquette.

As a general note for everyone, Etiquette is more than just having manners, it is the skill that gives you the clue on when to speak and keep your mouth shut. It's the little voice in the back of your head that tells you not to say yes when your wife asks you if the red dress makes her ass look like a bag of wet cellulite. True, you get a little of that just form the stat, but not having any etiquette means you are pretty freakin blunt.

Cool, if you are playing him that way, I'm good with it. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't an oversight.

This character also has a taint of 9.

1 = Quantum 5
3 = Clone 3 (tainted, at least that's how the author makes it seem)
1 = Matter Creation (tainted)
1 = Molecular Manipulation (tainted)
3 = Node 5
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9

Unless the rule for Taint Resistance in the Core Book is in use instead of the errata for Taint Resistance, this character is not legal.

Highest Taint permitted under the 200X Bible is 8.

Whats the errata for Taint resisitance? Thats the unofficial errata right?

In Aberrations and Errors it says Replace with when rules are replaced and clarifications when necessary.

This is how I took the errata for Taint Resistance anyway: It both reduces the taint generated by the node and negates Taint for the purpose of resisting mental aberrations.

If this is not the case, I can always reduce his node down to 2 and look at other background dots.

Personally I've always used the mechanic in the Core Book. Some people have a hard on for the Errata. I was just making you aware of the math.

The APG lists the Errata for Taint Resistance The Fool, the APG is not 'unofficial'.

Also as a side note to the Mods and Players: Can we not use character profiles as discussion threads? It clutters the profile and we don't have the authority to delete other people posting in our Character Profiles.

Also, can all this be taken to the Character Concepts thread so when Dr. Aeon is ready he will not have all this crap stuck in his profile, please.

Thank you.

I moved the above several posts here to keep from cluttering up Dr. Aeon's character thread.

I didnt say the APG was unofficial. I am pretty sure there is no errata for the taint resistance enhancement in the APG as well though I dont have my book handy at work so I might be mistaken...

I personally saw this as one of the biggest 'nerfing's of a decent ability in the history of gaming. Especially since it directly contradicts(as opposed to clarifies) what is written. One says that it reduces the taint for having a high node score((and gives an example of this)) while this says it works to avoid willpower penalties that completely ignores the example given. Riiiiight.... I say. I personally never use this errata at all and if it came down to a vote I would be all for throwing it out.

But that's just me.

Dude, that's not nerfing... my fire tank in City of Heroes went from being the ultimate character in the game to being one of the weakest archetypes. That's nerfing!

Your example is a bit extreme. I wouldn't know about the history of gaming but it certainly was a crappy change. One thing however, is that I moved it to Mega-Stamina instead of Mega-Intelligence.

Taint is the body's inability to handle and properly channel the quantum forces around the nova. Naturally the more healthy the nova's body is, the easier this process would become and hence the more resistant to Taint a nova would be.

Intelligence is a measure of calculating speed, thinking ability, and knowledge. There is nothing about the trait that effects the organs themselves and would thus make the nova anymore tougher against taint. Especially since there is onlt one form of Taint and that's 'Taint'.

There is no Mental Taint trait or Physical Taint trait, just Taint. Using the enhancement the way it's written mens that only those points gained from 'Node' should apply, since it specifically states that the taint gained from a high 'Node' usually results in Metal Taint/Aberrations.

But like I said, that's a house rule.

At any rate if Doctor Aeon is using the Core Book version of Taint Resistance, his Taint is 4, not 6.

Also, he's gipped himself on the duration for Clone. Clone already lasts one scene, which is as long as you need it to be. So if he's working in his lab for 18 hours on a project that's technically one scene (not that it'd be easy for him w/out M-Stamina). His 'strength' at the moment limits him to only 5 hours before he must recreate the clones.

Failure to rejoin results in the loss of any information that his Clones learned while separated from him (which would suck for a researcher, IMO). Since Clone isn't a maintenance power it can't just be paid for again to keep them around. They have to disappear/rejoin with him, and be remade.

Aside from from a few gripes I have about all the Mega-Att 5 characters that are getting made, he seems reasonable from a legality point of view.

I hate Mega-Att 5 characters. Haaaaate them. Some hard numbers-crunching Whitearrow did only helped reinforce that for me. If I'd thought of it in the beginning, and if I could have done so with impunity, I would have capped Mega-Atts at 4, and only for one character, to boot.

Why? Why do you hate them so? This question is for anybody who does btw. Just curious as I contemplate my first entry into the 200X Universe...

No comment???

I could see playing a M-Dex 5 character, that could get interesting. A person who didn't even act human at all. Just because they are too fluid and too graceful. Honestly, M-Dex 5 would be creepy as hell unless the person with it actively resisted displaying their abilities. They actually went over it in(of all places) the Vampire: The Masquerade Player's Guide, when talking about having stats above 5.

As far as the other abilities are concerned, here we go.

M-Str: No problems with it from my perspective. If you look at "Ticket To Graceland" here on the boards, it gives a pretty good example of what it's like to have M-Str 5. You would have to be careful not to crush or obliterate everything that you cane in contact with.

M-App 5: Much like strength, in its own way, see "Ticket to Graceland"

M-Dex: See above.

M-Sta: I don't see the point of this on this kind of board, but hey. As far as why it's bad to have, I don't know why. All it would do was make it so you really didn't get hurt. Might lead to a bit of alienation, but among novas, not really.

M-Int, M-Cha, M-Man - These are the only ones I really have a problem with them being at 5 just because there is no way to really even approximate their being at 5 on the boards. M-Stat 1 is beyond human means, and M-Stat 5 is to 1 what Stat 5 is to Stat 1(Slick as shit politico vs. Biff Thuggson) Even approximating them is an exercise in futility, but whatever. If you can suspend disbelief long enough, or simply come up with a reason for your nova to 'hold back' then go for it.

Daniel is in the hospital. His karma has made a speedy payback for what he did to alice. In case anyone is interested.

BTW Fox, your charsheet needs more detail. You dont list the dots for your powers and havent added the new megas. A cost breakdown is usually consisdered standard as well.

Let me check that. I was in a rush at work. Had too much stuff going on, may have messed up the post.

Thanks TF. Went back and checked and I hadn't added any of the Megas to the sheet.

Also added the point cost of what was added.

Sorry for the delay. I wrote up a very nice post on the subject this morning, and then the forum ate it, and for whatever reason, any further attempts to use this site met with dramatic failure. No clue why. Chat crashed, too.

Anyway, Fool, to answer your question:
It's fine and good that you want your character to be good at something. It's fine and good if you want them to be fucking spectacular at something. Being fucking spectacular does not require M-Att 5, although in a vacuum, you could make a case for their being no harm in it.

However, we don't play in a vacuum. We play in an established canon that has hundreds of NPCs with full write-ups, and if you look carefully at those write-ups, you'll notice a sort of bell curve for M-Atts that seems to start around 0, spike at 2, and taper off to virtually nothing at 4. The number of established characters who have a M-Att of 5 could be counted on your fingers with enough left over to give someone the Shocker. So when you compare the characters throughout the established canon to your new character who has M-Int 5 or M-Cha 5 or whatever-you-like, the trend that emerges doesn't speak of a player wanting to be fucking spectacular at whatever, it speaks of them wanting to bludgeon the rest of us over the fucking head with their primacy. At M-Att 5, you have established yourself as the fastest, the smartest, the strongest thing in creation, Pax and Mal (possibly!) aside, and the reason I frown upon it is because it is not necessary.

In short form, because it's the sort of ego-stroking, powergaming, "LOLI'MTEHBESTTEHBESTTEHBEST!!" bullshit that I punish people for in TT games.

What were the numbers that whitearrow crunched on you? Did he hurt you???

I'm sure he'd be willing to share his findings with you, or at least I hope, since I don't have his numbers. Basically what he found is the bell curve I mentioned before. There are very few published novas with M-Atts of 5, and not even as many as you think that have 4 or even 3. A M-Att of 3 is, in most cases, enough to make you peers with the highest-statted novas on the planet. Which just makes 5's even more gratuitous and unnecessary, to me.

I can see your popint, but then again we have a bell curve here as well. You can start out with 1 NP and bioluminessence and build from there or you can start at 50 and be on the higher end of things. It sounds to me like just a personal preference/style kind of thing...