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#106806 - 03/15/08 11:55 AM Satisfaction
Mr Fox Moderator Offline
Nova

Registered: 08/03/04
Loc: Texas
Maybe the topic should be called 'Getting Satisfaction'. Ok, so this opnet site is reserved for novas or I wouldn't post this, but I would like some advice.

Let me give you guys some background...

There was this girl. I was her best friend. I listened to all her problems. I let her cry on my shoulder when she was sad. I was there when she was happy. I was there when she was angry.

She would occasionally use me. Now and then when she didn't have any love interest she would snuggle up to me and we'd kiss and stuff. Then the next day she'd be all about some other guy again. It was really hurtful, so much so that I eventually erupted because of how she treated me. As you probably know from other threads I don't have really any powers to speak of. I got a little better looking, a little stronger, and a little smarter, but nothing approaching nova levels except for strength. (I was really angry and hurt when I erupted and took it out on a tree. I feel bad about the tree.) I went from a cute guy to a hot guy, but that's about all that changed.

Lots of girls at school are into me now because of the way I look, but I've been avoiding the one girl I really want. Here's the thing. I want her, but I really want her before I start developing obvious nova powers and abilities. I guess I want it to be ME that gets her not NOVA ME. Does that make any sense? She's the kind of girl that will go for me just because I'm a nova and I don't want to have her like that.

I've read some stuff and I know its a case of what the articles called 'unresolved sexual tension', but that doesn't matter, I want her to want me and I want her to want me because I'm me, not because I'm a nova.

So does anyone have any suggestions on how I should do this?

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#106808 - 03/15/08 12:06 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Mr Fox]
Revenant Offline
Nova

Registered: 09/23/05
Loc: Podunk, Hickville
Drop the bomb on her. Tell it to her straight and do not sugar coat anything. Tell her it's because of her you erupted and why, and make sure you tell her you're tired of the way she treats you.

Tell her what you really want and expect from her and let her decide. You may end up ass out, but Fox, seriously, that's life.

In my more brutal opinion, she's not worth it. Find someone who doesn't pull the crap she does.
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#106820 - 03/15/08 01:00 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Mr Fox]
VileBill Offline
Nova

Registered: 02/28/08
heheheheeehhehe.


Dude, that is so fucking sad. Unless you got the power to change the past you are fucked. You ain't getting what you want. Sack up and move on.

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#106828 - 03/15/08 02:29 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: VileBill]
Flicker Offline
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Registered: 03/09/08
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
You can't make someone love you, or even like you. All you can do is be who you are and lay out the facts honestly.
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#106835 - 03/15/08 03:09 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Mr Fox]
Alexis Layton Offline
Nova

Registered: 03/03/08
Originally Posted By: Mr Fox
Lots of girls at school are into me now because of the way I look, but I've been avoiding the one girl I really want. Here's the thing. I want her, but I really want her before I start developing obvious nova powers and abilities. I guess I want it to be ME that gets her not NOVA ME. Does that make any sense? She's the kind of girl that will go for me just because I'm a nova and I don't want to have her like that.

Daniel, you need to realize one thing. This bitch has never treated you properly. You were her toy, her plaything. You say she used you; the word you should use is abused. She abused your kindness, and you let her.

Break the cycle. She wasn't worthy of your attentions before you erupted, and she certainly isn't now. If you keep sniffing after her, you're no better than a dog chasing a bitch in heat. Have more respect for yourself than that.
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#106840 - 03/15/08 03:48 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Alexis Layton]
Mr Fox Moderator Offline
Nova

Registered: 08/03/04
Loc: Texas
Hmm. I guess you are all right, but that doesn't stop me wanting to get... what's the word? Oh, yeah, Closure. I just can't let it go. I've been wanting this girl for three years now and she's been dangling the carrot in front of me that whole time, and damn if I don't just want me a big ol' bite of it. I hate to say it, but I don't think I can go with your advice.
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All I'd have to do to get her would be reveal myself as a nova and she'd break into raging thigh sweats, but I'd rather have her without that. I may be crazy for still wanting her, but I think if I could just get her to want me in return I'd be over her. Does that make an sense? Damn I hate to sound like such a puss.

Anyway, with improvement in looks and the way most of the other girls at school are looking at me I probably just need to stop avoiding her and she'll be interested. Least I hope that is all there is to it.

Anyone have any advice for what might be a good way to do it?

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#106846 - 03/15/08 04:08 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Mr Fox]
Fianna Offline
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Registered: 03/13/08
Loc: NYC
Yes.

Date someone else. Enjoy it. Make it public. If you're serious about getting this girl to want you, even knowing she's only going to shred your heart into little pieces (masochist), you can't even hint at the fact that you're interested in her. She's a manipulator, and being up-front with her will only give her the leverage she needs to start abusing your goodwill again. Make her see how happy you are without her, and she'll be chasing you, for a change.

Even if she doesn't (though your description of her is pretty damning), you'll be having a good time with someone you like, enjoying your life, and getting yourself on the road to recovery from the bad mojo she's worked on you. wink
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#106853 - 03/15/08 04:39 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Fianna]
Revenant Offline
Nova

Registered: 09/23/05
Loc: Podunk, Hickville
Why did the lyrics to Nada Surf's - 'Popular' spring into my head.

Go get em' Johnny Quarterback.
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#106863 - 03/15/08 07:14 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Mr Fox]
Odysseus Offline
Nova

Registered: 02/23/08
Loc: Manhattan, USA
Originally Posted By: Mr Fox
So does anyone have any suggestions on how I should do this?


You know what I think you should do, Daniel?

Drop it.

I know that might sound counterintuitive. You want closure. How will you get any through avoidance, right? Hear me out. Revenge, as they say, is a dish best served cold. This might take a while, but trust me, it pays dividends in the long run:
You drop it. You ignore her. Don't speak to her anymore, don't regard her with longing. Don't look at her and think of what might have been or think of the good times or even think of her at all. Just move on. Live well, and let that be your revenge. And when you finally come out as a nova, it will fucking destroy her, and you will have won. That, my friend, is closure writ large.

And even if it doesn't work, so what? For good or for ill, in five years, you won't even remember her. Life's too short for petty vengeance: learn from the experience and let it galvanize you for next turn.
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#106865 - 03/15/08 07:23 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Mr Fox]
Alexis Layton Offline
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Registered: 03/03/08
Originally Posted By: Mr Fox
Hmm. I guess you are all right, but that doesn't stop me wanting to get... what's the word? Oh, yeah, Closure. I just can't let it go. I've been wanting this girl for three years now and she's been dangling the carrot in front of me that whole time, and damn if I don't just want me a big ol' bite of it. I hate to say it, but I don't think I can go with your advice.

All I'd have to do to get her would be reveal myself as a nova and she'd break into raging thigh sweats, but I'd rather have her without that. I may be crazy for still wanting her, but I think if I could just get her to want me in return I'd be over her. Does that make an sense? Damn I hate to sound like such a puss.

You sound like a puss because you are. You want to prove that you're better than her by having her. Instead of convincing yourself that she's a bitch and beneath you, you have decided that your conquest of her will make you feel like a man. This will last until you find another carrot that won't let you bite, and then you will do this all over again.

Fianna's advice is good. If you insist on chasing this moronic bint, follow her advice. The only thing I'd add is make sure that this woman is as popular as her or more popular than her, so that she's forced to reassess your worth in her eyes. If you are with one of her peers, it makes you something worth having, in her eyes.

And as a last note, I will call you much worse than 'puss' if you break the other girl's heart. If you use her without consideration of her feelings, then you are as bad as the 'carrot'.
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#106873 - 03/15/08 08:40 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Alexis Layton]
Mr Fox Moderator Offline
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Registered: 08/03/04
Loc: Texas
Alexis, I completely agree with you. I have no desire to use or abuse anyone just to get back at this girl. Still, I have been dating a lot more since I erupted just because I got a little better looking and upgraded my wardrobe. I haven't used anyone or done to anyone else what she did to me, it's just been going out like normal people do. I've also been completely ignoring Her and avoiding her since it then, so I guess I've kinda been following your advice too, Odysseus. I guess the next step would be to stop avoiding her and just ignore her instead. That will drive her nuts I think. Seeing me with other girls and not giving her the time of day will eat at her. Right now she's probably been cool with me dating others since I've still been obsessing over her by the avoidance. Negative attention is still attention as the teachers like to say.

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#107069 - 03/17/08 08:49 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Mr Fox]
Jael Carver Offline
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Registered: 03/02/08
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
It's too bad you're not in Phoenix. I'd be willing to help you with this brat, and then you wouldn't have to worry about hurting some other girl. It'd be my good deed for the month. ^_^
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#107078 - 03/17/08 09:27 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Jael Carver]
Mr Fox Moderator Offline
Nova

Registered: 08/03/04
Loc: Texas
Wow, Jael! You'd do that? I'd totally fly you out here if you wanted to. I don't have much money yet, but I can afford a ticket if you've got the time. With your help we could have her turning green with jealousy!

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#107081 - 03/17/08 09:32 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Mr Fox]
Flicker Offline
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Registered: 03/09/08
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
This can not end well.
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#107083 - 03/17/08 09:45 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Flicker]
Revenant Offline
Nova

Registered: 09/23/05
Loc: Podunk, Hickville
For that sort of entertainment hell, I'll buy the ticket, round trip, first class.

Quote:
This can not end well.


And therein lies the beauty of it.
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#107095 - 03/17/08 10:31 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Revenant]
Jael Carver Offline
Nova

Registered: 03/02/08
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted By: Revenant
For that sort of entertainment hell, I'll buy the ticket, round trip, first class.

Very well. First class, then.

If this is going to blow up in my face, then I want to do it in style. wink

But it will be fine. I'll just need to call my best friend, and set up a black ops mission with her.
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#107100 - 03/17/08 10:45 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Revenant]
Alexis Layton Offline
Nova

Registered: 03/03/08
Originally Posted By: Revenant
For that sort of entertainment hell, I'll buy the ticket, round trip, first class.

Quote:
This can not end well.


And therein lies the beauty of it.

Are you going to bug her, for maximum enjoyment of all?
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#107103 - 03/17/08 10:48 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Alexis Layton]
VileBill Offline
Nova

Registered: 02/28/08
Okay, so sacking it up and moving on is out of the question then. Okay then tell her you've got node stiffie and when she's wet enough to slide up hill fuck her tits off.

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#107111 - 03/17/08 11:06 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Alexis Layton]
Revenant Offline
Nova

Registered: 09/23/05
Loc: Podunk, Hickville
Originally Posted By: Alexis Layton
Are you going to bug her, for maximum enjoyment of all?


You know... all I've purchased for myself in the past two months is a bottle of Allegro marinade and a guitar from the pawn shop.

Screw it, I'll her up with spy gear. Think $5,000 will cover it?
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#107125 - 03/18/08 12:11 AM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Revenant]
Jael Carver Offline
Nova

Registered: 03/02/08
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted By: Revenant
You know... all I've purchased for myself in the past two months is a bottle of Allegro marinade and a guitar from the pawn shop.

Screw it, I'll her up with spy gear. Think $5,000 will cover it?

Hmm... do I get to keep it when we're done? shocked
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#107126 - 03/18/08 12:13 AM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Revenant]
Alexis Layton Offline
Nova

Registered: 03/03/08
Originally Posted By: Revenant
Originally Posted By: Alexis Layton
Are you going to bug her, for maximum enjoyment of all?


You know... all I've purchased for myself in the past two months is a bottle of Allegro marinade and a guitar from the pawn shop.

Screw it, I'll her up with spy gear. Think $5,000 will cover it?

Oh, EXCELLENT.
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#107129 - 03/18/08 12:18 AM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Revenant]
Mr Fox Moderator Offline
Nova

Registered: 08/03/04
Loc: Texas
LOL! This is turning into quite the event. Thanks Jael, I'm looking forward to it. Spring Break was last week, so perhaps we could have met down at the beach, and you decided to come visit afterwards? That would be a good excuse for us to have met.

Even though no one knows I'm a nova, the fact that I am hanging out with one will make her horribly jealous. That ought to be just the hook I need to catch her.


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#107132 - 03/18/08 12:25 AM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Mr Fox]
Jael Carver Offline
Nova

Registered: 03/02/08
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted By: Mr Fox
LOL! This is turning into quite the event. Thanks Jael, I'm looking forward to it. Spring Break was last week, so perhaps we could have met down at the beach, and you decided to come visit afterwards? That would be a good excuse for us to have met.

Even though no one knows I'm a nova, the fact that I am hanging out with one will make her horribly jealous. That ought to be just the hook I need to catch her.

Sounds good.

Reven, where is my plane ticket and spy gear? Book it for Friday and bring me home on a Sunday.
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#107137 - 03/18/08 12:29 AM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Flicker]
Flicker Offline
Nova

Registered: 03/09/08
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
Originally Posted By: Flicker
This can not end well.
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#107138 - 03/18/08 12:29 AM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Jael Carver]
Revenant Offline
Nova

Registered: 09/23/05
Loc: Podunk, Hickville
PM me your information, I'll wire you the cash. You're ticket is booked.

Knock your selves out.
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#107145 - 03/18/08 12:48 AM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Revenant]
Mr Fox Moderator Offline
Nova

Registered: 08/03/04
Loc: Texas
This is gonna be sweet. There is a school dance Saturday night. This will be absolutely freakin perfect. Since I'm not buying the plane ticket, maybe we can go out and do some shopping Saturday and be totally geared up for the dance. It's time for some new clothes anyway, and I'm sure you can help me be a bit more stylin. That is if you don't mind.

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#107166 - 03/18/08 02:21 AM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Mr Fox]
Odysseus Offline
Nova

Registered: 02/23/08
Loc: Manhattan, USA
It's fantastic and awful to bear witness to the kind of spectacular cruelty, pettiness, and childishness that the powerful can set their minds to. Once upon a time, I thought people going so far out of their way to arrange some pathetic and vindictive form of vengeance on someone else was the exclusive domain on the insane, but once more, you've proven it's not so. Bra fucking vo.
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No, his mind is not for rent, to any god or government.
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#107168 - 03/18/08 02:23 AM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Odysseus]
Flicker Offline
Nova

Registered: 03/09/08
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
Originally Posted By: Odysseus
It's fantastic and awful to bear witness to the kind of spectacular cruelty, pettiness, and childishness that the powerful can set their minds to. Once upon a time, I thought people going so far out of their way to arrange some pathetic and vindictive form of vengeance on someone else was the exclusive domain on the insane, but once more, you've proven it's not so. Bra fucking vo.

This.
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#107212 - 03/18/08 09:37 AM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Flicker]
Alexis Layton Offline
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Registered: 03/03/08
Perhaps if someone dies, they will learn. However, as I must still breathe, I will not hold my breath waiting for them to learn.
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#107224 - 03/18/08 11:23 AM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Alexis Layton]
Mr Fox Moderator Offline
Nova

Registered: 08/03/04
Loc: Texas
Dude, I'm not Titus. I'm not going to make her eat her own parents or something. (Thank you English class.)

I don't intend to be cruel, I just want to give her a small taste of what she's been doing to me for 3 years now. That and leave her wanting me rather than the other way around. We'll see how it goes, just the look of jealousy on her face when she sees me hanging out with Jael may be enough for me to be satisfied.

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#107227 - 03/18/08 11:39 AM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Mr Fox]
Dr. Robert White Offline
Baseline

Registered: 03/08/08
Loc: New York, New York
Fox,

I know I am a little late commenting on your desire to get back at the girl who hurt you, but I thought that I would add my $.03.

Since no-one knows that you are a nova, especially this girl, couln't you use that to your advantage?

What you do, is approach her and tell her that you are a nova. If she is like most teenagers, she will jump at the chance to date a nova. After a week, you break up with her. When she asks why, you tell her the truth: That she treated you like dirt before you erupted, and that you only dated her again to prove to yourself how shallow a person she really is. Also, tell her that if she had treated you with respect before your eruption, you and her would still be dating.

She may not learn anything, but she might learn to respect others. In the long run, it might make her a better person.
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#107230 - 03/18/08 11:50 AM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Dr. Robert White]
Mr Fox Moderator Offline
Nova

Registered: 08/03/04
Loc: Texas
Dr. White,

Nice! That's a seriously good plan. I might just have to include that in with what I already have going. Jael showing up and going to the dance with me will make her jealous as hell, then after the weekend she'll be all about hooking up with me. Then I can do it your way from there.

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#107238 - 03/18/08 12:38 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Mr Fox]
Flicker Offline
Nova

Registered: 03/09/08
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
You only get to come out to the world as a nova once. I'm glad your debut will be something you can be proud of. And what better than a modern real-life retelling of a bad late 90's movie which is a retelling of a bad late 80's movie which is based on a novel from the 18th Century which depicts the decadence of the French aristocracy, who were essentially the novas of the 15th Century.

Good to see that you're doing something original with your node.
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#107241 - 03/18/08 12:45 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Flicker]
Spartan Offline
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Registered: 05/26/06
So I'm not the only one wondering how they got lost in the middle of a fuckin' John Hughes movie?

Good.

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#107242 - 03/18/08 12:49 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Flicker]
Mr Fox Moderator Offline
Nova

Registered: 08/03/04
Loc: Texas
When they get redone like that over and over they call it a Classic. As my English teacher would say, it 'resonates' with the reader, because lots of people can relate. So, nyah! :P

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#107249 - 03/18/08 12:57 PM Re: Satisfaction [Re: Mr Fox]
Flicker Offline
Nova

Registered: 03/09/08
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
I've done my best and said my bit. Go ahead with your foul plan if you must. I wash my hands of this sordid affair.

I'll be here to say "I told you so" when you're getting dragged through the slime on N! and slammed by the loonies on the Jordan McDevitt Show.
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