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#107036 - 03/17/08 01:42 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: NoFate_Void]
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I turned the big 3-0 back in January - welcome to the club!
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#107037 - 03/17/08 01:50 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: Andrew Murphy]
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Happy belated birthday Andrew. Yeah, now we can go to the 30 Something clubs.

To everyone else, I updated Voids character background to reflect what you guys would know. Specifically her powers are only half known by the world.
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#107038 - 03/17/08 01:56 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: NoFate_Void]
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HAHA...this time next year, I will be the big 40.
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#107040 - 03/17/08 01:58 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: Nosferatu]
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32 to here. This looks like a 30+ Party wink

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#107041 - 03/17/08 02:07 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: Joani Reikspar]
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:brings a tray of jagerbombs to the table:

For all us 30-Somethings .. Cheers grin
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#107043 - 03/17/08 02:31 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: NoFate_Void]
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Ugh - Jäger kills me - I had a bad incident caused by Jäger.

Joani - Should I post my powers and Omega related info or is it cool as is?
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#107044 - 03/17/08 02:37 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: Callum Uallas]
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You can all take Couriers entry as reference.

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#107048 - 03/17/08 03:36 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: Joani Reikspar]
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I turn the big 4-0 in May, so for now I'm in the 30something club.

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#107049 - 03/17/08 03:42 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: Mr Fox]
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So as a group, should we get together and talk about how we know and interact with each other when we see each other in private/public?
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#107054 - 03/17/08 03:51 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: NoFate_Void]
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I am turning 28 this year. Looking forward to 30 actually...

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#107056 - 03/17/08 03:54 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SkyLion]
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I can say that 30 feels a lot like 29 - except for the fact that now it feels worse when somebody younger has no idea what I am talking about. I have to survey the audience before referencing 80 TV and Movies for instance...

Re: Savar's point
Hopefully Joani will clue us in onto how long we have all been working together
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#107057 - 03/17/08 04:18 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: Andrew Murphy]
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Originally Posted By: Andrew Murphy
Re: Savar's point
Hopefully Joani will clue us in onto how long we have all been working together


You know eachother for about 1 year. OC hasn't as yet assigned you with a target to hit. Your first objective was getting into the other factions which you all accomplished successfully (some of you having been in one of the Factions before you got recruited by OC - I leave that detail up to your freedom to chose and it would leave space for Character Fictions).

I thought of leaving it up to you how well you know eachother and if some of you are good friends or not. Feel free to exchange your thoughts about that at the Table Talk.

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#107058 - 03/17/08 04:21 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: Joani Reikspar]
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If anybody lives in the Glasgow area of Scotland and likes young kids Callum would be more than happy to have another adult age freind. Single father and all so he's got responsibilities.
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#107059 - 03/17/08 04:30 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: Andrew Murphy]
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Hmmm...I read your update to the background info. The tech level may balance this out but I think my character might be more in the know about where HQ is. He is also extremely hard to pin down. I was thinking Id keep all my backing in OC and not worry about where he is placed in DeVries. Precogs, telepaths and teleporters are so valuable he won't have any trouble getting misions with them.

Something else I was thinking is that my character is veeeery scary, even to other Novas. He even scares the Teragen in monstrousness. I was thinking of going for Taint 6 but then you don't get any social penalties til 8 so I was thinking 7. Now Im thinking fuck it maybe go for 8. yeah baby! Which brings up an important question. If we are affiliated with the Teragen do we get access to archetypes and chrysalis? Or maybe the OC has something better...

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#107066 - 03/17/08 08:36 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SkyLion]
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Why use taint at all Sky .. Your character could go for M.App 2 with the enhancements of Face of Terror and Awe-Inspiring. Tweak Awe-Inspiring to be a presence that people feel. Like you walk into the room and people get that weight in their chest and cant help to look at you but are at the same time paralyzed and they don't know why.
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#107075 - 03/17/08 08:59 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: NoFate_Void]
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Its not my characters theme thats why. I could go for Mega Ugly. If I take a particular flaw and taint 7 Id have a - 2 social penalty for novas and - 4 for baselines...freaky deeky.

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#107079 - 03/17/08 09:28 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SkyLion]
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Well it looks like my character might not make it after all. I havent even submitted the sheet yet but theres already been a problem with precognition...it tends to scare STs. Still Joani and I are trying to work it out. I don't know that I will survive another conceptual rejection for this game though. Cross your fingers...

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#107080 - 03/17/08 09:32 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SkyLion]
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Good luck. I know Precog is a total pain. I would probably only allow it in one of my games if I was planning to use the character as a conduit for plot clues.

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#107084 - 03/17/08 09:46 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: Mr Fox]
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thats pretty much how I hope Joani sees it. We have a precog in another game and the player gets about a PM a week with various visions. I asked Joani if he would allow it if it was weakened to only see an hour back or forward and that seemed to help a bit. Mind you Id still like the full version but I know its difficult to ST.

In fact it would be nice if anyone has any helpful ideas for me or Joani about how to run and play such a character.

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#107087 - 03/17/08 10:03 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SkyLion]
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Well, I run a table top Exalted game and I have a character that took the flaw of Unbidden Oracle. I basically run it like Issac from Heroes. At my whim he gets a vision at my discretion that might be soon or farther away in the story. It works for the game.

I am not familiar with your concept, but it works. You could also say it is like the jedi abilities. Combat sense where you can spend it to gain insight to combat and hence initiative bonus. Concentrate on the future to once again, get a image. The further out in time it is, the more abstract and the less set in stone it is. Kind of like in Dune with Paul Atraides. Just some thoughts, would like to see your character in the game.
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#107090 - 03/17/08 10:21 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: NoFate_Void]
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Thanks Savar and a belated happy birthday as well.

I just watched the movie Next for some inspiration. Not the best film but it had some really cool moments. I like how he states that as soon as you look at the future it changes, because you looked at it.

Which leads to the further headache of whether what you see is immuatable. Say you see yourself getting killed. You try and prevent it by changing your actions but it turns out that the actions you take because you saw yourself are what lead you to actually getting killed.

The idea particularly appealed to me because this Story is called No Fate. Like in Terminator 2: No Fate but what we make.

Which means Joani needs to decide if seeing the future presents an immutable path. This would be similar to 12 Monkeys which although involving time travel and not precog is similar enough.

The other way is that you see it and it changes as you adjust so you have to keep looking. This is more like the movie next, where he is able to look and see every possible outcome and choose the best one.

The latter is more of where my theme is headed. I was discussing some of the finer points with Courier in chat and I managed to get a "well done" from him on my execution of the cocept which is both interesting and eccentric while still being effective. Having gamed with him for awhile I take a well done from him to be a compliment.

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#107094 - 03/17/08 10:30 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SkyLion]
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I do agree with you, Next was a well done concept, but not executed the best possible way. And to me, that is also the same concept behind Dunes version of precog as well. So I definately like the concept and it is up to the Storyteller to go for a set in stone or a more fluid version of time. That is kind of why as a storyteller myself, I go for more the fluid things. I run it that history is easier to see when it is not that far ahead, hours or days. But to see past a major event is hard because all roads lead to that event then sprawl into lots of directions. This is how I run it in my Exalted game at least. Because I have a character with Dark Fate and Unbidden Oracle. So I have one event I wrote into the game, but everything he sees is generally story hooks/tie-ins for upcoming plots.

Either way, looking forward to your character.
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#107109 - 03/17/08 11:03 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: NoFate_Void]
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Heres a question for everyone...would y'all be pissed if I took Taint 8 and Permanent Power: Telepathy (surrepititous) as an aberration?

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#107113 - 03/17/08 11:14 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SkyLion]
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google:define:surrepititous ->Marked by quiet and caution and secrecy; taking pains to avoid being observed; "a furtive manner"; "a lurking prowler"; "a sneak attack"; "stealthy footsteps"; "a surreptitious glance at his watch"; "someone skulking in the shadows".

Im okay with it. My only worry for your character is maxing your power. I hope you read her rules on that.
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#107116 - 03/17/08 11:21 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: NoFate_Void]
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you misunderstand methinks. Surrep means that he can read your mind without you knowing its happening. Permanent means it would always be active...so whoever he is talking with he can finish their sentances and stuff. Of course some players dont like the idea that other players know what their characters would be thinking. The characters tend to not like it that much anyway. On the other hand if approved I am going to be a commander (rank) and possibly team leader (only if everyone is cool with it otherwise Im just the specialist.) It would make him a scary commander...

Anyone else take backing 5?

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#107119 - 03/17/08 11:31 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SkyLion]
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Actually I did understand that it would be an always on power. But I understood it to be kind of a stealth attack, like it is you verse a passive willpower save. No one would realize it happened even if your power failed at that moment to get past their will.

Personally I value willpower and have it at a decent rank. But I can understand you barking orders and being able to be guide our actions in combat or even out of combat.

But again, this is me and i am okay with whatever gets approved.
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#107120 - 03/17/08 11:34 PM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: NoFate_Void]
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Im not one for maxing powers btw, *especially* in light of Joani's stricter rules and the fact that this character will never learn dorm.


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#107128 - 03/18/08 12:17 AM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SkyLion]
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Mew. In a game like this, where secrets are so valuable and our employer is so secret, I think it might be hard to justify why your character is employed by Omega if he's constantly and undetectably reading minds. If I were running a black ops company like Omega, that kind of character is the last thing I'd want within a hundred miles of any of my operatives, let alone my facilities and support crew.

Of course, Omega may have countermeasures against telepathy I know nothing of. Still. On general principle. smile
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#107130 - 03/18/08 12:20 AM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SalmonMax]
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well with his Backing who is to say he isnt in on it with the management? But I see your point...

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#107141 - 03/18/08 12:39 AM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SkyLion]
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Yeah, I have to agree with Lily, in this setting I don't see it as very likely even with 5 backing. No one likes someone that can see through secrets less than those who make their life's work the keeping and knowing of said secrets.

Companies like this live by the concept of 'need to know'.

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#107147 - 03/18/08 12:49 AM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: Mr Fox]
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well yeah and truth be told I think Joani is going to poo his undies when he wakes up and reads that part above. So I will retract that idea and stick with good ol 7 taint.

And I believe all the basic hashing out is now finished. Just need to figure out details like costume now.

Is anyone else backing 5?

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#107149 - 03/18/08 12:51 AM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SkyLion]
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4 I think, might have gone with 3. I'll have to look back. Planning to take more with the higher NP versions.

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#107152 - 03/18/08 12:57 AM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: Mr Fox]
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crap...I hate waiting for Joani to wake up....Im bored and need to know whether i should bother typing up this monster...

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#107188 - 03/18/08 04:53 AM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SalmonMax]
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Originally Posted By: Lily
Mew. In a game like this, where secrets are so valuable and our employer is so secret, I think it might be hard to justify why your character is employed by Omega if he's constantly and undetectably reading minds. If I were running a black ops company like Omega, that kind of character is the last thing I'd want within a hundred miles of any of my operatives, let alone my facilities and support crew.

Of course, Omega may have countermeasures against telepathy I know nothing of. Still. On general principle. smile


Thats about as close to the truth as you can get. I wrote a PM for Sky hoping he'll be fine with it.

As most have already figured - there are some powers that would result in a guaranteed exit via bodybag through OCs doors.

I hope you're going to be fine with the story anyways. It is much about morale, ethics and mystery and hopefully you're going to reveal some of the darker secrets. Equipment update will follow today.

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#107196 - 03/18/08 07:49 AM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: Joani Reikspar]
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Im excited for Friday to come to start playing, especially now that it is no longer my birthday. (oh the headache though)
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#107197 - 03/18/08 08:12 AM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: NoFate_Void]
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Is this the only game you are in, Savar?

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#107198 - 03/18/08 08:24 AM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SkyLion]
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Originally Posted By: SkyLion
Heres a question for everyone...would y'all be pissed if I took Taint 8 and Permanent Power: Telepathy (surrepititous) as an aberration?


I can't say as I would be thrilled to have my bought and paid for Cipher rating all but ignored.
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#107201 - 03/18/08 08:44 AM Re: Table Talk: No Fate [Re: SkyLion]
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Originally Posted By: SkyLion
Heres a question for everyone...would y'all be pissed if I took Taint 8 and Permanent Power: Telepathy (surrepititous) as an aberration?
So everything you do has a +2 difficulty attached to it because you're always in someone's mind? Taint is a disadvantage, not an advantage. Be sure you want to live with that one.
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