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#108822 - 04/02/08 02:09 PM
"Stepping On the Toes of God" OR "Robots? Que?"
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Contessa: A Contessa robot?!? Have the mods lost their marbles?
Alexis Layton: What?
Contessa: Read "Of Madness and Metal". Zer0 apparently creates a robot from a Contessa mold.
Zer0: As an initial design, sure, but as you can see in the second post, they're two very different creatures(in more ways than "one's a nova, one's a machine"
Zer0: I have said before and I will say it again -- If it irritates you, let me know so I can change the name, since that's about where the association ends
Contessa: I don't mind Contessa being used as the 'blue print' since it doesn't look like her and wont ruin her image... it's the "I made an android." that has me shocked.
Zer0: The best I can do is suggest patience. Unless the simple creation of a realistic doll shocks you, I think when this thing works itself out, it will be ok
Valerie: Well the functuonaklity of the Android is what decides how advanced it is, it it's only good at menial tasks it might be simple enough to be possible, but if it can reason a situation and has feelings, might be a bit too self-aware >_>
Flicker: Have you considered a discussion thread in the 200X area? ;D
Zer0: 'Zactly. I'm not quite crazy enough to go for a full blown self-aware AI. Something that has programming similar to a modern RPG NPC or a Sim's Game?
Zer0: Again, Flicker steps forward with a brilliant plan. Go Nova Go! I'll copy-paste what's here so far into a thread...
Edited by Zer0 (04/02/08 02:10 PM)
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#108825 - 04/02/08 02:15 PM
Re: "Stepping On the Toes of God" OR "Robots? Que?"
[Re: Zer0]
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The questionable parts, as far as I can see are these two:
1) Machine initially modeled to look like Contessa. --- Initially, sure. However, since Contessa is an individual character under the control of an individual player which I have no intention if messing with(without permission, that is), the similarities end with the name. The result would have been the same if he had used "Ausrine", "Knockout", any of the other holy crap mega-appearance type novas. After about a post, the similarities were gone, only the level of appearance stayed.
2) AI -- Like I said in the post, I'm not quite crazy enough to go for a full blown self-aware AI. Programming that has been done up to now along the lines of a modern video game NPC or Sim's Game seems very plausible. (Series to demonstrate "AI" - Hitman, Rainbow Six, Assassin's Creed, Fable, The Sims(2))
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#108830 - 04/02/08 02:38 PM
Re: "Stepping On the Toes of God" OR "Robots? Que
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I have actually explained this to at least a couple of them, and yes, they are watching what I do very carefully. The end result is actually going to be pretty tame. Point A = Mundane, point B = Mundane. Getting from point A to point B = That's where the fun is. I'm reminded of a certain piece of literature with rabbit hole. The beginning and the end happened in the mundane world. The middle was far from it. I'm just going to put this out there as well. I'm actually planning on going down a pretty dark path with this storyline. If it ever gets to the point where you just want to say "ok, that's enough" I'm kinda counting on you(the other writers) to say so. You have ultimate power over how far the Madness and Metal goes. It's a fine line to walk. I'll trust that the Mods will take your nose off if you get too far out of line.  Just think of what the other authors can do... ((hides))
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#108834 - 04/02/08 02:44 PM
Re: "Stepping On the Toes of God" OR "Robots? Que
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Makes sense to me. Still, in my mind, it's not the end result that makes the process interesting... (like you said, it's basically a FemBot. No big deal, been done before) it's how you get there.
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#108856 - 04/02/08 04:09 PM
Re: "Stepping On the Toes of God" OR "Robots? Que
[Re: Flicker]
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The end result is actually going to be pretty tame. Point A = Mundane, point B = Mundane. Getting from point A to point B = That's where the fun is. I'm reminded of a certain piece of literature with rabbit hole. Wow. I know that I'm full of myself sometimes and get overly-fond of my own writing ability, but did you just put yourself in the same league as Lewis Carroll?Wow. . .  I can see that you're not going to be one of the fans of my writing. Ah well, can't win them all. And no, I did not put myself in the same league as Lewis Carroll. Not any more than Peter Jackson's screenwriter put himself in the same league as Tolkein. However, same general idea. Mundane beginning, mundane end, crazy middle.
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#108878 - 04/02/08 05:59 PM
Re: "Stepping On the Toes of God" OR "Robots? Que
[Re: Flicker]
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I was making a joke, hence the smiley. Ah, my bad then, misinterpretation is fun :P
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#108898 - 04/02/08 07:20 PM
Re: "Stepping On the Toes of God" OR "Robots? Que
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Personally, I would have made a Android Knockout complete with gadgetry powers and called her "Technical Knockout".
Thought about it, actually. Though at the time of the schematic creation, there was no Knockout and I'm not a fan of ret-cons.
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) so as lonely as Zer0 is in his lab I can understand why he'd need a doll to help him release some pressure. Just be clear that your FemBot can in no way be mistaken for Contessa and cannot in anyway sully her reputation without my approval.
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