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#108988 - 04/03/08 02:12 AM
Re: Can Somebody Help Me?
[Re: Anne 'Rapture' Joy]
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Nova
Registered: 09/06/01
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If your religion and your being are at odds, Anne, I'm afraid there isn't too much hope of a peaceful resolution. This isn't like being gay, where they can send you to some brainwashing camp and have you come home swearing on a stack of Bibles that you're attracted to the sex Almighty God intended and they force you into a marriage with some "cured" gay dude so the two of you can play house and pretend for the rest of your miserable, loveless lives.
No, you're a nova, now, and you're going to be a nova even if you don't use your powers even once, even if you can 'dorm down 24/7, and if your family can't suck up and deal with the biological fact of who you are, then either you need to change their minds or you need to be on your merry way. Sorry, love, but this story doesn't have a happy ending for you.
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#108992 - 04/03/08 02:29 AM
Re: Can Somebody Help Me?
[Re: Cain, PI]
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Foxy Lady
Registered: 11/18/02
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I'm not of your faith - not of any faith, really - but perhaps I can help.
Eruption is stressful on families and friends. It upsets the equilibrium they, and you, have found with each other. This is just about universal, no matter what faith, race, or country you hail from.
Hateful letters from the Church of Michael Archangel are a fact of life as a nova, sadly. I find their notion that all novas are destined to go insane with power and will wipe out untold millions to be a laughable prophecy at best. I did get a nice letter from the Church of the Immanent Escheaton that I had to decline, but they may have a message you'd be interested in.
(I've heard more vitrol from anti-nova religions, sure, but this is the OpNet. "All Novas Should Be Permanently Destroyed" will get more hits than "Novas Are Pretty Neat," which is why everyone who wants to get noticed starts bangin' the drum of hate.)
I can tell you: talk to the ones you love. Faster is better. If you leave them be then all the thoughts they have bouncing around inside of their skulls will ferment and fester. Let them know how hard this is on you and how you need their support - and let them know that you know, how hard it's been on them, because I can all but guarantee that it has been.
Most of all, tell yourself this, because it's the truth: you did nothing wrong. No one chooses to be a nova, the same way no one chooses to have blonde hair or brown skin. What matters, right now, is what you do next. Lots of people are going to be telling you what you ought to do, think, or believe in the next few weeks, but that kind of a choice is not up to them.
I wish I could do more, but evangelical Christianity isn't something I'm an expert on. But in my experience, people are people no matter where you find them.
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#109000 - 04/03/08 03:56 AM
Re: Can Somebody Help Me?
[Re: Anne 'Rapture' Joy]
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Nova
Registered: 09/06/01
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Cain: I've been told there are a couple evangelical Christian churches that do accept novas - unfortunately, they also accept homosexuals.
I guess I should ask if homosexuals are sinners too, because if my father's wrong about novas... Well, shit, if you're actually asking, no, homosexuals aren't "sinners", either. Sexual attraction is largely a matter of genetic determinism and is only marginally affected by environment. Here, a few more bombs to drop on you, before you get around to asking: The Earth isn't six thousand years old, but several hundred million. God didn't make the Earth in six days, and he didn't guide the hand of evolution. The Jews were never slaves in Egypt. No historical precedent exists for Abraham, Adam, Eve, Moses, Joshua, or any biblical figure prior to Judah Maccabeus even existing. People can't return from the dead. Oh, also, God doesn't exist. Sorry.
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#109004 - 04/03/08 04:36 AM
Re: Can Somebody Help Me?
[Re: Anne 'Rapture' Joy]
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Nova
Registered: 09/06/01
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If God doesn't exist, why did He erupt me during a dream of the Rapture? He didn't. Dreams are the result of your subconscious mind reacting to the firing of synaptic neurotransmitters in your brain. Generally this takes the effect of our minds playing with things that weigh heavily on our minds. I'm sure that in your case, you think about things like the Rapture a lot. In short, you dream about the Rapture because you think about the Rapture, and it just so happens that you probably had a traumatic or epiphanous emotional reaction to whatever you were dreaming. Dreams can seem very real. A question back to you, Miss Joy. If God is responsible for eruptions and he chose to cause you to erupt in this fashion why do others not erupt through similar means? Most people erupt because their lives are threatened, which I guess you could make a case for divine intervention, there. But some people erupt because they're mad, or experimenting with drugs, or because they choose to smash their head into a wall until it happens. I seem to recall not too long ago a serial rapist erupted when his victim pulled a can of weapons-grade mace on him. Was God responsible for those eruptions as well? Clearly not. The only rational answer is to simply remove God from the equation, and there's a very good reason to do that: there's no such thing. I'm sorry you could only be introduced to this idea now.
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#109040 - 04/03/08 02:38 PM
Re: Can Somebody Help Me?
[Re: Anne 'Rapture' Joy]
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Nova
Registered: 03/03/08
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I tried, Dear Lord, did I try to talk to them. My father effectively told me I was a sinful whore because I erupted while dreaming of the Rapture - where we're going to leave our clothing with everything else behind, like Misters Jenkins and LaHaye say in their books - and flew up through the ceiling. I think it's mostly because he doesn't like Hispanics, and Carlos is Guatemalan. To be sure I understand, you think that your father is telling you that you're a sinful whore because you're dating a Guatemalan named Carlos, but he is saying that it's because you erupted? I wish to make sure that I understand, because that statement isn't very clear. I guess I should ask if homosexuals are sinners too, because if my father's wrong about novas... Don't ask anyone here what you should think. Clearly, you have learned that one person you trusted to feed you information was wrong; now is not the time to find another font of 'wisdom' to drink from. You are responsible for your thoughts and the actions stemming from them, unless you have a telepath in your brain. This responsiblity does not disappear if you are just doing what another told you. Do research. You're in New York City; just stand on any street corner and you'll see that there are many diverse lifestyles that all thrive in the city. For more formalized study, try The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual & Transgendered Community Center. They would love to enlighten you. I wish Carlos knew what to do. Then he could tell me. See comment above. You're an adult. Think for yourself.
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#109057 - 04/03/08 05:04 PM
Re: Can Somebody Help Me?
[Re: Anne 'Rapture' Joy]
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Nova
Registered: 03/02/08
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
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I am sorry if I seemed hateful towards gay people. We're meant to love the sinner, hate the sin; but having met a couple novas from the QNA, I'm not so sure it is a sin. Mustang Sally and Rainbow seem like very nice, well-adjusted people, not at all how World Net Daily describes them. They certainly didn't try to recruit me for the homosexual lifestyle!
Thank you for not being hateful towards me. My father did his best to see me sheltered from the sins of the world; unfortunately, he seems to have told me a lie or two. I can only assume it was with the best of intentions, but only the Lord can judge that in the end. More likely that your father really believes the lie. There are people like that; I have a cousin who went all religious. Once I erupted, he started to send mom and dad CoMA material. They laughed in his face (over the phone) and told him not to bother anymore. And the reason they didn't try to convert you is because they believe that you are or you aren't gay, and they can't make you believe that you are if you aren't. That's the way most of the homosexuals I've met feel about it.
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#109060 - 04/03/08 05:26 PM
Re: Can Somebody Help Me?
[Re: Jael Carver]
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Nova
Registered: 09/23/05
Loc: Podunk, Hickville
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There is nothing in the Christian faith that says being a nova is a punishment from God, there wasn't before and there certainly hasn't been anything added since N-day. CoMA, which is a church unto themselves and remains mututally exclusive from all other faiths are the ones who sputter that crap about being demons and what not. Seriously, most sane churches will not touch these guys with a ten foot pole. What kind of a church do you attend? Sheesh. If CoMA is giving you trouble, fine, that's one thing. If your own church is giving you grief about being a nova then just join a different fellowship that is more understanding. It's that easy. All this "Christ this" and "Chirst that" and "I wish Carlos were here..." just shows that you're co-dependant. Rapture, think for yourself, do for yourself, it's a great feeling. Try it sometime. My father did his best to see me sheltered from the sins of the world; unfortunately, he seems to have told me a lie or two. The sins of the world are where 99% of the fun is. Hit any club or the Blackburn on a Friday here in New York sometime. You'll never want to go home.
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#109084 - 04/03/08 08:31 PM
Re: Can Somebody Help Me?
[Re: Anne 'Rapture' Joy]
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Nova
Registered: 09/23/05
Loc: Podunk, Hickville
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My father runs my church. He can't make you be a member of it. If the people of your church are treating you poorly, just leave. Co-dependent? I don't know what that is, but aren't women supposed to obey the rules laid down by men? If I wasn't already dead you'd have just killed me. Hell no you ain't gotta do what we tell ya. Land of the free, home of the brave and all that. You have the right and the privilege to be anyone you want to be. Obey rules laid down by men... what a crock.
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#109096 - 04/03/08 09:11 PM
Re: Can Somebody Help Me?
[Re: Anne 'Rapture' Joy]
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Nova
Registered: 03/09/08
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
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How can the Bible be wrong? God wrote it. You know, that's something that's been bothering me for a while now. I'm glad you brought it up. If a divine all-powerful all-knowing eternal being were to write a book, wouldn't it be immediately obvious to anyone who even glanced at this book that it can only be the work of a supernatural being? I mean, absolute epiphanies should leap off of every page. The prose should be tighter, more eloquent, more entertaining, more insightful, and more profound than anything any mortal could ever create. All people everywhere should keep a copy close at hand at all times, and be absolutely riveted by the unspeakable truths and knowledge that it imparts. Compare this to The Bible that actually exists. It's rambling, incoherent, mind-bogglingly dense and tedious, internally inconsistent, and frighteningly banal. God had nothing to do with The Bible. God would have done a much better job of it.
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#109100 - 04/03/08 09:14 PM
Re: Can Somebody Help Me?
[Re: Flicker]
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Baseline
Registered: 04/02/08
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How can the Bible be wrong? God wrote it. You know, that's something that's been bothering me for a while now. I'm glad you brought it up. If a divine all-powerful all-knowing eternal being were to write a book, wouldn't it be immediately obvious to anyone who even glanced at this book that it can only be the work of a supernatural being? I mean, absolute epiphanies should leap off of every page. The prose should be tighter, more eloquent, more entertaining, more insightful, and more profound than anything any mortal could ever create. All people everywhere should keep a copy close at hand at all times, and be absolutely riveted by the unspeakable truths and knowledge that it imparts. Compare this to The Bible that actually exists. It's rambling, incoherent, mind-bogglingly dense and tedious, internally inconsistent, and frighteningly banal. God had nothing to do with The Bible. God would have done a much better job of it. I don't understand most of those words. I'm sorry.
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~Corinthians 13:7-8
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