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#118692 - 07/14/08 03:20 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Courier]
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I just realized that I may be taking all the credit for Titan's post. The big post was all his doing, not mine. I'm just providing the character. I apologize to Titan if this has come accross in the wrong light. I didn't mean to get the attention he deserves.
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#118722 - 07/14/08 07:34 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Fahrenheit]
Titan Moderator Offline
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S'okay, I'm not all that attention-deprived wink Thanks, Fool, Courier, others. All I can say is that the character lends itself to mass distruction pretty easily. Joani told me to take Fahrenheit and have her wreak some havok in Edinburgh, and I think we succeeded pretty well. Yah, might be past time to update the old 'Headline News' thread...

Post toasties tonight, kiddos, get em while they're hot!
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#118724 - 07/14/08 07:54 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Titan]
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Sweet!

And as Titan said Farenheit, you provided the character and the inspiration. Without that Titan would have had nothing to go on, even though yeah he is a great writer and an awesome ST. An instant classic IMHO, and one of my favorites already.

The point is though, that it's a collaborative effort. We all deserve the praise and we are all getting a lot of enjoyment out of each other's contributions. I'm always happy to see ItB updates and its great that its so prolific even Carver has a hard time keeping up with all the action. wink

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#118726 - 07/14/08 08:09 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: SkyLion]
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Yay!! ItB Posties are my fav!

I find myself in agreement with The Fool, and say that I am getting a lot enjoyment out of each and every contribution made to!!
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#118732 - 07/14/08 09:34 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Katalyst]
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OK. This is going to come out like criticism, and I guess it is, a bit... but constructive. I love the game, I wouldn't trade a single character or player for the world. That said, if you want me to post in your thread, please end your post with an 'action, outcome uncertain'. I know that sometimes you just want to say, 'and then I went to sleep', but honestly what am I supposed to do with that? 'And then you wake up, 8 hours having passed'? I am the world... Do something to or in the world, and I will tell you what happens. Do NOT get me wrong... I feel some of my best stuff has come from trying to post when it doesn't really feel like my turn, but it's getting harder to come up with the good stuff! So, help a tired old broken down ST out, will ya? smile Thanks!
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#118803 - 07/16/08 10:43 AM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Titan]
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Does anyone think Rich would think calling them would be useful in regard to the Secret Service?
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#118804 - 07/16/08 10:58 AM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Courier]
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Understood, sir!

At present, Juno's heading to meet the others in Klaus Von Klausenstein's room. I'll post her arrival shortly. I just figured I'd leave it open at first to see if anything went disastrously awry on the way. smile

Courier - Once Juno's older and better trained she'd make a really good secret service person, but for now, probably not. smile
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#118810 - 07/16/08 01:07 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: SalmonMax]
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Well, Michael has military training and loves his country, so he might be a candidate.
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#118815 - 07/16/08 02:41 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Michael Peters]
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I just realized what Juno's theme song is...in a tongue in cheek sort of way. smile

"I'm So Ronery," from the Team America: World Police soundtrack.

Hee.
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#118843 - 07/16/08 07:25 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: SalmonMax]
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Hi guys. Quick explanation: I resigned my position at work this morning. One of my managers was sexually harassing an employee, and when I turned it in to HR, I was told that it was just 'hijinks'... because the manager was a woman and the employee a man. The consensus at Home Office was that it was 'probably' consensual, and what's the big deal anyway? The employee was transferred to another district (he resigned and is suing the company), the manager was assigned a 30 minute computer course on sensitivity training. When I complained about the outcome, I was told that I can expect a full audit of my district, and I could expect to be held responsible for any exceptions(discrepancies) found. I felt this to be a bit thuggish, and since they were threatening my job, indirectly (presumably to get me to back off to protect it), I saved them the trouble and quit. I DO need a job, however, so I will be job hunting... That said, this is why I didn't post yesterday, and will not be posting today. On the upside (for you guys, at least), I will have time to post more often here for a week or two, while I figure out where I will crashland. Thanks for understanding, and yes it sucks a big one. Wraith is very supportive, and my kids (Kayla and Skye) were thrilled to have Daddy home today. I am resisting the urge to plot revenge...
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#118846 - 07/16/08 07:37 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Titan]
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Registered: 08/03/04
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That really sucks Titan. I hope it all works out for the best. If you kept good records of it, maybe you can sue too?

So what part of the country do you live in and what is your job type?

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#118847 - 07/16/08 07:39 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Titan]
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Registered: 12/27/06
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Well if you simply can't resist, remeber to chill it first in the refrigerator for 30 minutes. Best served cold....

Happy Hunting! smile

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#118848 - 07/16/08 07:40 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Titan]
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Wow that is some big news to swallow. Isn't there some whistle blower protection law your covered under? Even then couldn't you sue the company for threating you?

I wish you all the best in getting another job, and hopefully things will all work out for you.
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#118854 - 07/16/08 10:39 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Katalyst]
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Titan, send me your location and kind of work you're seeking, and I'll do some searches for positions. I do this for my online friends. smile
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#118861 - 07/17/08 12:46 AM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Dawn, OOC]
Peter Bell Offline
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Registered: 05/20/08
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Ugh! Sad to find you in such straits, but you did the right thing sticking up for your fellow employee. I hope you find a more appreciative work environment soon.

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#118874 - 07/17/08 08:38 AM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Peter Bell]
Michael Peters Offline
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Wow, that sucks Titan. However, it looks to me like you took the moral high-ground, so kudos to you.

Good luck in finding better employment with a better company.
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#118877 - 07/17/08 10:15 AM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Michael Peters]
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Titan, just wow. Long run you're better off trying to live with yourself I think. Good luck.
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#118880 - 07/17/08 11:15 AM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Courier]
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Agreed. You did what was right by you, and that's the critical thing.
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#118996 - 07/18/08 05:48 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: SalmonMax]
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Thanks for all the well-wishes guys and gals, I really appreciate it. Dawn, I'm on the east coast (Maryland) and I'm looking for General Manager positions or District Manager positions in retail or restaurants. Anyway, I have my headhunters out there looking for me, and my resume is updated, I met with HR to settle my 401k, and my remaining vacation time, as well as severence... so all my ducks are in a row. I went with wifey to see Dark Knight last night, and it made me re-assess some things that I want from the game. So, what I am saying is... let the posting resume!
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#118997 - 07/18/08 05:51 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Titan]
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Well that's good to hear!
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#119002 - 07/18/08 05:59 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Katalyst]
SkyLion Offline
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Registered: 12/27/06
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Waitin' on you big guy! wink

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#119157 - 07/20/08 11:27 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: SkyLion]
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I gather there will be another thread with "approved house rules"? And before I start, do we comment on proposed house rules here or there?
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#119159 - 07/20/08 11:31 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Courier]
Titan Moderator Offline
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Why hello, Courier, I didn't see you there. Er, comment here. We'll leave that as the postboard that we are posting the rules on. If it sticks, fine, if not... it'll disappear. Sound ok? Can you tell I make this shit up as I go, or am I covering pretty well?
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#119162 - 07/21/08 12:08 AM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Titan]
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Welcome to the game Jaunt!
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#119172 - 07/21/08 04:24 AM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Titan]
SkyLion Offline
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Originally Posted By: Titan
Why hello, Courier, I didn't see you there. Er, comment here. We'll leave that as the postboard that we are posting the rules on. If it sticks, fine, if not... it'll disappear. Sound ok? Can you tell I make this shit up as I go, or am I covering pretty well?


Sorry, I posted in the House rules thread before I got to the table talk thread and saw the quoted post above...

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#119173 - 07/21/08 04:59 AM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: SkyLion]
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Titan that dream sequence in Jaunt was pure Wow. Amazing writing. I took me a moment to see what you were doing with it.

Its pleasent surprises like that that keep me coming back here. grin

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#119174 - 07/21/08 05:04 AM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: SkyLion]
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also FYI for Courier. Novus and Nova both come from the same root meaning new so it's all good. smile

(Can you tell I am catching up on my reading? smile I am gone for just 2 days. 2 Days! And I have over 60 posts to read in just this game....We've created a monster! crazy )

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#119180 - 07/21/08 08:42 AM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: SkyLion]
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RE: Jaunt
Rather than have specific rules for teleport; What I'd prefer to see is a house rule allowing non-combat powers to be "pulled", i.e. if they're used at half of less power they get -1 juice (limit one). If we allow that then Teleport could be taken with RQC (Reduced Quantum Cost) with normal rules.

RE: Flicker
Sounds like "Combat Teleport", "Quick", and RQC.

RE: Mass Transit
Interesting idea and very balanced. I don't see why it couldn't be purchased with XP... actually I don't see why it couldn't and shouldn't be made a standard rule. I.e. any nova with attune can pay a health level to increase his attune by 15kg. Thus not only T-port but FF and the like would get to share the fun.
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#119213 - 07/21/08 03:49 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Courier]
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Courier. You can already "pull your powers." I know in the book it mentions pulling for "half damage," but there are plenty of other places that say something like "damage or level of effect if the power doesn't involve damage." Its pretty much a no-brainer but sure I'd be happy to see it written "officially."

As for Flicker, your assesment is dead on. Trying to do 3 things with one thing, for less cost and at a broken level of game balance, as well that the supposed "balance" is really cheesed since its easy for a Nova to have at least 5 perception...

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#119219 - 07/21/08 04:20 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: SkyLion]
Titan Moderator Offline
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Originally Posted By: p241 of the Core Rules


Pulling Your Punches
Novas don't have to hit at full force. A nova may subtract any amount she wishes, from damage adds and/or damage dice, before rolling damage. If this reduction takes the nova below half of its normal value, the nova pays only half the normal quantum-point cost of the effect.


The example given is Quantum Bolt. I will rule, based on this, that you may, at your discretion, also reduce the magnitude of the power. See the list of things you can 'max' on p 147, and you may reduce it as well. Titan has spoken... again.
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#119220 - 07/21/08 04:20 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: SkyLion]
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I don't know.

I kinda like em. The author did a great job and should be commended and awarded bonus XP or NP or something. 200 or so should be a sufficient.

With the exception of Jaunt, which is more an RP power than having any practical use, the other two Extras have been reviewed by the players of RPG-Post and already found to be quite balanced.

Jaunt, it was recommended, should just be a level 2 power, I thought maybe a Level 1 power since TP is already Level 2 and Jaunt is useless in combat, stressful situations and the range is incredibly limited (by comparison). It's strictly a flair power. This is a change I wouldn't mind making spending XP or NP on a purely RP-style power doesn't bother me in the slightest.

I'll make what changes Titan asks me to.

I will note that I'm against making Mass Transit a 'general rule' avail to all players. It's an extra that makes the nova's capabilities unique. If novas want to Mass Transit via TP, they should come learn how from the nova who developed it. It promotes character interaction and role playing and prevents the bandwagon crowd from immediately trying to take advantage of something new being introduced.

Those are just my opinions on the matter. I'll settle for 100 or so if Titan thinks 200 is too steep.
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#119249 - 07/21/08 05:58 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Jaunt]
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I have no problem with Jaunt, although I agree its already covered in the rules by taking RQC, and then using the power at half level to be free. I am patently against Flicker as it is now written but it's Titan's game so i'll live with whatever he decides.

As for Mass transit, i think it's cool also, and I can understand you don't want everyone taking your extra. I would feel the same way about an extra I invented for a character.

Question: does Jaunt have Q6 so he can potentially take all of these? If so I would recoomend taking Tport + RQC + Combat Tport which would still cost 1 QP per jump/attack in addition to any points you spend on quickness to be able to do mutiple tport attacks. This would be fairly balanced IMHO and within the scope of a Q 6 character.

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#119251 - 07/21/08 06:05 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: SkyLion]
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If the rules cover (and Titan permits) a power scaling itself downward for a lower cost, then the Jaunt Extra solves itself. The character can already teleport anywhere in the world with a single success, so scaling the power by half is still way farther than Jaunt would have carried him.

Cool by me.
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#119256 - 07/21/08 06:23 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Jaunt]
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Quote:
3) She may subtract one from the 'target number' needed to define success, up to a limit of her Mega-Attribute rating. Thus, the character with Mega-Dexterity 4 could lower the target number from 7 to 3, so that anything over a 3 counted as a success. This makes it possible for novas to accomplish some tasks with phenomenal success.

Can I recommend that this option require the expenditure of a Willpower Point?

It's one thing to pull off something phenomenal, it's another to do it every time you roll. I think it could be easily abused and a Willpower Point can help keep that in check.
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#119260 - 07/21/08 06:57 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: Jaunt]
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If you crunch the numbers, you will find that the difference in net successes between the three methods is negligible. It is actually more of a stylistic choice, rather than any statistical advantage. That is, whether you are rolling 9 dice, and four of them can get you 2 or three successed each, or only rolling 5, but a success is on a 3 or higher, your average number of successes per roll doesn't change.

Re:Jaunt - My gut tells me that this should be a 'special effect' of the teleport power anyway. I need to roll this one around in the noggin some more, but I suspect that I'm gonna let you have this one free, just as a 'pulled' power effect

Re:Flicker - Originally I thought I was gonna object to this one for the same reasons already stated. But the fact is, it doesn't quite do what Quickness does, and it doesn't quite do what Combat Teleport does, nor does it replicate a combination of the two. It seems like a less expensive way of duplicating the two effects, balanced by taking the hit on accuracy. I'll allow it as is.

Re:Transit - I agree with Courier that it should probably translate into a standard rule for attunement, but the mechanics lend themselves spectacularly well to teleport, specifically. So, I'll allow it as is, and kudos on a fantastic job.

Jaunt, take 2xp for your efforts, and a hundred pats on the back.. (That comes out to 2 hundred, right?)
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#119299 - 07/21/08 11:46 PM Re: Table Talk- OOC Discussion [Re: SkyLion]
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Originally Posted By: SkyLion
Question: does Jaunt have Q6 so he can potentially take all of these? If so I would recoomend taking Tport + RQC + Combat Tport which would still cost 1 QP per jump/attack in addition to any points you spend on quickness to be able to do mutiple tport attacks. This would be fairly balanced IMHO and within the scope of a Q 6 character.

No, Jaunt is not Q6.

Quickness does not permit the use of powers with its extra actions. Also, teleport (even with combat teleport) remains a "Multiple Actions: No" power.

Combat teleport helps for short distances to escape attacks in the form of dodging by 'blinking' the user out of harms way. The user may make multiple dodge attempts with it (since the extra states you may). It does not (based on the description of the power and the extra) make the power a "Multiple Actions: Yes" power.

And thank you Titan. Now I don't have to kill you.
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