Who the hell are you?!

I am talking to you Solitaire. Who are you to come down on my pal TUM TUM?

Solitaire? What kind of a name is that? Are you telling us you like 'solo games'?

By the way, this goes for most of you, stop putting TUM TUM down! Those of you who think you are funny, talking too high for TUM TUM to understand, let us see how funny you are in the field!

- Warlock

Ouch. A shining knight to the rescue of poor, proto-coherent Tummy. Dimwitted flamewars are never far away onnn... N!PRIME!

It´s 2 minutes HATE meets the lovechild of XWF and the Aaron Spelling soap of your choice! WITNESS how Nimrod throws himself into the fray!

Hey, you fuck....fuck! Warlock, huh? Are you implying that you like, uh, wars and stuff? Well, so does your mother! And everyone laughs behind your back because you SUCK!

Well let me just go on record as saying that my suggestion for TUM TUM is actually serious, after all it would be work he enjoyed thoroughly.

If he's into the idea I met Livia Lash and Jaque Chameleopard, two very - different and interesting - people over the new year at a party. They say the Taint Chix and Taint Stud market is really booming at the moment, they're in the business, some of you may have seen some of their films. Anyway they gave me a studio card, they reckoned that my glow, adaptability changes and stamina would go down a storm. If TUM TUM want, he can have card. Or you could just look up the HarshTaints Op-site. They said they could use the publicity and it sure was an interesting party they invited me to.

God damn. Lookie what we got here. An old school troll fest. Warms my otaku heart. Hey, actually we gotta give TUM TUM credit, he provides ceaseless entertainment for us. And, well, I just... like the guy. I know, it's weird, I just... do.

Endeavor, you are weird..But I wouldn't have you any other way, than the way that you are.

I just think TuM Tum as a child, he needs to be treated well, and kindly..If you get jeoules over him, it is just your ego acting too far.Would I take him as a bed fellow,no.. I would sooner Take Apep.And for the record I am not that way.

And Ronin,if your reading this.I think I have a girl will like.Well enjoy.She is kinda col out side of the bed.

Jesus Sandy would you stop bringing me into your little fantasies.

As for TUM TUM, look he's not a child and he's not a pet so why doesn't everyone stop fucking treating him like one.

Jesus, you say.Really, I thought you were above human and all that jazz, so why bring that name up.

As for why I bring you name up, buase I can joke.Your the one that told me to lighten up, so hey..Should I stop now,becuase you don't like it?

As for treating him like a child.I treat him like one as he seems to do childish things.If he did or said something to make me change my mind about him.I would.Untill then, I shalll treat him like a child who should be treate kindly and tenderly.No threating, no cursing, and no hate towards him.

That's why I'm heading out to see him sometime. I gotta know what's up with the God of Consumption. This guy must have a black hole for a stomach! Perhaps if I can open a dailogue, I can figure out just how much is clicking behind his speech. It could be that his eruption caused a speech impediment and he may be super freakin' intelligent. I guess with me it's giddy curiosity on how TUM TUM ticks.

Perhaps Tum Tum is thinking the same thoughts about you... interchanged with images of frills or lace obscuring much but hiding little and wondering what sort of "sammich" you're bringing him for lunch. Honestly just have a good time and bask in the thought that he likes you and you like him. Don't feel the need to justify.

I'll still want detail though.

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Sandy,

It's an expression you twit. Never in my life have I been christian.

This isn't the first time you've used me as a sexual example. I'm beginning to wonder if you have a crush on me.

Sandy, you dug that hole for yourself. I do have to admit, Apep, your comebacks are razor sharp.

Jesus as a Expression, is like gay as one..Do you believe in the son of mary?

As for a crush on you, I would not mind you for your body.But your mid, well let's just say you are not my type of friend.

As diging a hole, i am not complaining, just bothered by a person who claims to be above something then does it.Kinda just me...

:rolleyes: none of my faith is put into the last christian. I thought I said that already. Since when did religion have anything to do with evolutionary superiority?

E-chan, is that sarcasm I smell? Sorry dear, my words have never been as sharp as my claws.

I thought we all did.

You have got to be joking.

Apep, I'm for real. You're vicious.

Sorry. Didn't mean to sound sarcastic. You're just good at backing yourself up. You got more backbone than me, that's for sure.

I dislike Tum Tum. Heavily.

.ronin

Warlock, I created this public persona because I only work alone, and when I am on a job I enjoy playing with my mark a while before I take care of business. My motto is "All work and no plays makes for a boring day."

I find solace in the fact that there are others out there, like ronin, that share my viewpoint on TUM TUM. I often feel that I am unto you, what you are unto baselines. Many of us have been blessed with a superior intellect, which apparently we waste away on the intrigue of the village idiot.

ronin, if at any point in time I decide to join forces with like minded individuals, I would place you on the top of my list of people that I would contact. Your voice is refreshing amongst the chatter from the flock.

Solitaire, can you give life to those who should not have died?Can bring back any of the countless victems of petty,and hateful bouts of rage?

Well untill youc an, you should not be so swift to kill someone, who has done nothign to you.He is liked by some,and maybe even treated better than he should be.Do you think we should kill those who are lucky enough to have some good things dealt to him..Maybe I should kill you becuase you are a nova.Maybe I should kill all the people who think they know mroe than they should.

Wile Tum TUm may not be smart, but he one thing you will never be.Brave. You are a coward,and hide in shadows..So, if you want to see what I can do.By all means go ahead and try to kill Tum Tum, becuase if he dosen't get you,I will.

Sandy, many have confused intelligence and cowardice in terms of combat strategy. There is an intrinsic order to the universe, and we all have our spot in it. If someone feels that they are better than I am, or lie somewhere below and feel they can improve their situation, and then by all means, come for me. I am comfortable saying that because I have taken measures and countermeasures to insure my life.

My problem with TUM TUM isn't simply because of his intelligence, per se, but his ability to pass that level of intelligence on to the next generation. I don't want to live in a world filled with inferior beings, which is why I do what I do.

Countless people die every day. Many dying before they have had a chance to live any of their dreams, or to accomplish what they had set out to do in life. Some of those people are viewed as being incredibly brave people that died trying to help the weak and the less capable. Well I for one thing that is a load shit. Anyone that associated, not to mention risking his or her life for someone of a lower station, automatically assumes that station in life. Being a nova is of no value, unless you are willing to do something with the powers that you have been given. All of the Utopians are wasting their time tending the herd, instead of their stated calling of "Guiding Humanity to a Better Tomorrow."

To me, bravery is choosing a road that people are afraid to walk and proudly strolling down that road. Because of my beliefs, I have had to take the road alone. I would have considered joining forces with members of the Teragen, but their petty mindedness and inability to make any real difference shows their weakness.

I didn't have a problem with the freak until he came in and started talking about all this where are the women crap. I have no problem with the guy, provided that he wants to live alone in a cave for the rest of his years. But the second he attempts to procreate, then I feel that I have to do something about it. It is my duty to ensure that only the strong and the mentally fit survive and are capable of breeding.

I want to build a tomorrow filled with people of intelligence, who can actually make this shithole a worthwhile place to live. And TUM TUM is undermining that dream. So to be fair, I’ll give one person here a chance to save the losers life, at least for a while at least. So if you want TUM TUM to live, then all Endeavor has to do is tell him that she won’t meet with him. It’s as simple as that. I leave his life in your hands, Sakurako.

Damn, I am SO glad someone who knows what's really going on has been bold enough to stand up and say it. Not even Widget has had the brass ones big enough to do that.

Solitaire, just a few questions:

Why do you assume there is an intrinsic order to the universe? Did someone tell you this or has your eruption and obvious intellect led you to this understanding? Boy, I wish I was as perceptive as you.

Why do you assume you know who should and shouldn't procreate? I mean, do you have some sort of Genetic Sight that let's you see what offspring others will have. That has to be one of the Kewlest powers I have ever heard of. I bet you already knew that, right?

Why are you opposed to saving another's life? Are you saying that since they needed saving, they are obviously inferior and not worth it? Now, my life has been saved by a baseline. So, did that lower me or uplift him? I don't recall him erupting, but I could have just missed it. I am really not all that clever, as you already know.

Why do you feel the need to justify your beliefs and actions under the venier of superior genetics or intellect? Usually, the "Big Brains" don't go bragging about the scope of their intellects. I am so pleased that you aren't restrained like that.

Does Divis Mal know your walking his road? Or, Ceastus Pax, for that matter? Or, have you already pushed them aside on your quest to do 'what is right'? Hey, it is probably your road, anyway. It is about time you took it over and put those intellectual and philisophical posers in line. After all, what has Utopia done for the rest of us recently? I am sure you are dead-on about the way the Teragan is. What have they done to show the rest of us how Right they are, huh? I bet ronin and Apep are really embarrassed about their associations, present and previous, with that organization. Thank you for showing them the light.

I am so pleased that yours is the superior intellect. Otherwise, you would be coming across as just another psycho with delusions of their own self-importance.

Three last, little things:
Please do not refer to my home as "a shithole". I keep must of my stuff here and whatever flaws it may have, it has character. Sorry you can't appreciate that.
I have studied your counter-measures. They're crap, but your intent was in the right place. Keep working at it. I am sure with time and experience you can do better. Get past that ego of yours and you might go far.
I usually don't come down this hard on newcomers. Play nice, or at least attempt civility and I will attempt the same. Having a vast, improved, intellect is a pleasent thing. It doesn't give you the right to talk down to the rest of us, though it does provide you with some of the ability.

Have a nice day.

TUM TUM NOT KNOW WHY PEOPLE KEEP SAYING DUM STUFF. TUM TUM JUST WANT FOOD AND LUVIN. TUM TUM SMASH ALL THAT GET IN WAY.

Okay, so what's been said to me is:
If I see TUM TUM, then his well being is in jeopardy. Am I getting that clear? So, you're willing to kill someone because of something petty? You dissapoint me. What if what you bring to bear isn't enough to hurt him, huh? Are you willing to toss away your life because of something as childish as your prejudices?

I don't know, I may be one of the chattering flock, but I'm not the wolf looking for his next meal.


Perhaps I should elaborate further, Solitaire. You are that predator that looks for the weak in the herd. TUM TUM is that percieved weakness. So, you intend to be a predator? Someone who will destroy a sentient being over an assumed defect in his mental process? TUM TUM can more than adequately defend himself. So, I doubt he counts as a viable target as prey. Or perhaps, you are trying to lure me. Another big mistake. Unlike TUM TUM who relies on brawn, I'm one of those hard to catch mice. Smart, fast, and small. You'll have to put effort in to take me out. Not because I can fight you head on, but because I can out maneuver you. So, I doubt I'm a valid target either.

So that leaves me with the other point. You're not a predator. You're a psychopath. If you're willing to kill someone over the fact that you just don't like him, then you have sociopathic tendancies. That makes you dangerous. I assure you, Solitare, I will defend myself, and if I must, I will also defend TUM TUM. Not out of love, but out of respect for my fellow race and for life itself.

I advise you, ma'am, that if you decide to cross that line, I will do what I must to survive, and I'm more than sure TUM TUM thinks the same way.

Solitaire.

Thanks for saying so.

I don't necessarily agree with everything you said, just as I am sure you cannot, in good conscience, agree with all of my perceptions, either. That's fine. I believe in few things, and one of them is freedom. As I have espoused in past threads and made perfectly clear in my own .sig file, the sad fact of this world is that might makes right, and no amount of dick-tugging here is going to change a thing. You say your piece, your opponents say theirs back.

And while the rest of the people here motherfuck each other back and forth, I'll be alone, doing essentially the same thing that you all are. The difference is that when I'm finished masturbating, I'll have a little something to show for it.

I don't necessarily think that you should kill Tum Tum because of the capacity that he might breed, but I certainly don't like or respect him enough to bother stopping you, either.

In a way, you represent a new level of Natural Selection, and I respect that, even if I don't agree with it.

The only advice I would see fit to give you is that being abrasive accomplishes nothing. There's no need to piss people off. If you're going to do something, do it. Otherwise you sound like someone threatening suicide who's just looking for attention.

And it's bad form for an evolved being.

.ronin

Yo yo yo Mr.Solitair, this Big Poppa Metropolis in yo face commin at you in a quantum frenzy. I got one question for you and one question only. If your so against stupid people reproducing, and your into building a better world, then when is the last time you went whole sale mass slaughter on some small midwest American town like Enid, Oklahoma and put an end to all the fat white trash red faced women drivin around in minivans and reselling stolen goods? Most of em got seven children all living off the man. But I digress, I was just curious when the last time you made the world a better place.

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BTW: Why is it there more talk about TUM TUM and not the recent developments of human-nova affairs. TUM TUM is small coin.

You're over looking the larger picture. The majority of this thread is at best only masked as a discussion concerning Tum Tum.

And stop trying to change the subject, blushing school girl. No one is falling for it. It's not the ravenous Tum Tum that inspires the imagination so much as your flowering awareness.



Metaphorically rather than biologically speaking, Widget has brass ones big enough to contemplate much. I don't lack audacity but neither do I subscribe to the view in question.

Witness, if you will, the drawback of mental faculties being so finely tuned that one can perceive raw evidence of implicate order and consciously process the relational information. With awareness sometime comes over-dentification with reality and mistaking one's place within it.

In simple terms, some hyper intelligent beings believe that on some level the universe actually cares what they think.

I would say more accurately a part of the natural selection process. The degree of his influence remains to be assessed.

And in answer to an earlier question you asked of me elsewhere; my statements were based on the most accurate source of information available to me.

Sorry for the delay in answering.

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Aren't Sentient and Intelligent beings sort of above natural selection? I thought they could decide their own destiny with free will.
And Widget, give up. It's not funny.

No, but they possess the potential to respond to the stimuli of natural selection in ways that non-sentient or unintelligent life forms could not or would not.

The remark wasn't intended to be funny. And I'll agree to stop talking about it though I still want details.

Deal?

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Widget.

For someone so smart, you certainly so seem to be pushing for this most idiotic coupling. Frankly, if this doesn't somehow play into your world-throttling video game, I'm going to be fairly disappointed.

It is my sincere hope there will be no details to give. For fuck's sake.

Endeavor.

Free will is an illusion. Nobody decides their own destiny.

.ronin

There are matters in which I choose to abstain from a lengthy analysis believing that an objective determination of idiocy or brilliance is going to be inherently flawed. Not that this is one of them but I thought I would point that out.

I do have a reason though it has nothing to do with couplings, idiotic or otherwise, and do want details. Perhaps in deference to your desires she'll choose to provide them privately.



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Okay, this is getting too deep for me. Check please.

This from one of the top 25 minds on the planet.

Who are you trying to kid, Hon?

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So much fodder, so little time. I'll try to address as many points as I can, but I have a date to catch and don't want to spoil things by being late.

First off, the difference between myself and the rest of you idiots is that I don't care if you agree with me or not. I'm not trying to promote some new propaganda, or to rally people to my cause. I already know that most people are happy living their sheltered little lives and don't want to achieve any measure of greatness. Even the mighty Teragen haven't achieved what I would consider any success.

Jager, thank you for studying my countermeasures. When I am finished with this, I will go back over them and look for possible weaknesses. The only flaw that I can see up to this point is my coming forth in a public place, which I have never done before. I live in world of lies and deceit, where the only way to stay safe is to live in shadow, only committing to half-truths. You have only seen what I have let you see, which is far from my reality. And once this is over, I will disappear back into that familiar darkness. I may reemerge at some future point, but it will be under a new guise. The chance you have to be safe from me is to question and doubt everyone that will ever come into your life.

Endeavor, society will see me as they see fit. All great artists have been misunderstood and underappreciated during their lives. I expect that it will be some time before people begin to understand my true motivations and the benefits that I have made for the world.

ronin, thank you for the level of respect that you have shown me. Don't worry; pissing people off is only part of my plan. First they must hate me. Then they will learn to fear me.

My time here is done. And remember, when this is all over, that I did give Endeavor a choice.

I am so completely amused by people who feel the need to stand up and announce themselves as dark and mysterious. Living in a life of lies and shadow must not be particularly fun if no one gets to see how cool you are.

Solitaire, I don't hate you. Why would I hate you? Why would anyone here hate you? Because you're rude and infantile? Please, as if we have not experienced that a dozen times over.

Yes please, go back into the 'shadow' and return in another guise. I wait your return with much anticipation.

If only that were true.

Ronin, does simple courtesy always draw the more esoteric social elements to you like this? I'm not critiquing your demeanor, I'm just wondering if my more brusque approach is serving a useful purpose I'd not originally intended.

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