Another trip to the Amproom? O.O... *eyes water* Daaammnnn..... NOw I've got to get better just so I can get some clubbing in again. -.- Well, that, and getting some better clothing than this goofy @$$ed hospital gown.

Me too. We should do it again sometime.

Greetings again board members

I have been to the clinic, and am glad I am gone...

There are some big meanies in there. Some nice folks, but lots of meanies.

Anyway

So this trip to space.... I am all for it now

Found out I won't be needing the suit, but would like one to play around with. I am not sure how the zero g is going to affect my relaxed form.

I think you set a new record for the race out of a clinic. That was... 6... days? Very cool.

In zeegee maybe you'd roll up into a ball of goo. Or a soap bubble with your glowing node in the middle. Can you handle the heat, cold and radiation?

If you can I'm a little envious.

Ugh... 6 days? Thats it??

I could have sworn I was in there for several weeks. They had me in some chamber that was really a forest. I didn't see any techs after they put me in it, until the area melted into a visual slime. Then they came in and ooo'ed and ahhhh'ed all over me for an hour or so. I told them I had to use the rest room, and I slipped out through the plumming.

I did things in there I don't think I will ever forget. I don't think I will ever want to kill anyone ever again.

On the plus side... I feel stronger than I did when I went in. Both physically and emotionally. I learned quite a bit about how to use my new body.

I felt the same after my first mission. Don't worry, it will fade.

There aren't that many good reasons to kill someone when you think about it but there is something I don't understand.

You went into a clinic. Check.
Got stuck in a lab maze. Check.
You are reluctant to kill?

What did they do to you in there?

I'm just as curious. Where exactly did you go, Deeth?

I am not sure where it was. I was packed into some lady's suitcase, and she got on a plane. When we got to the hotel, I oozed out the window and down the hotel. I don't have any clue what town it was in.

There were a lot of mexican speaking people, but that doesn't mean much anymore.

Thinking about it though... it did look like the "Rashoud Clinic" sign was a little crooked. But the people seemed nice enough.

What did they do to me in the "maze"?

it was more of a forest than a maze... and all I did was survive...for about a month. I was being constantly hunted by some maniac called Shuttle. Him and his baseline guards with some nasty weapons. I have found that I don't like energy weapons much

To be honest... I don't really keep up with where I am or where I am headed. If it looks fun, I will go, if it doesn't. I won't.

Ever since I climed out of that grave, I have lost touch with everything in my past. I am creating a new future for myself, and as long as it is fun, I will put it in there. My trip to the clinic, though painful and stressful...it was fun.

Not Utopia and it sounds like you went through a little mental conditioning, to me.

Shuttle, huh? That rings a bell. Later.

David, there is a reason that it feels unnatural for a sentiant species to kill one of its own, or even a subspecies of its own. "Getting used to it" is called "developing sociopathic tendancies". I aught know. I have them. It appears you do too.
It makes doing the job easier and it's a survival trait. If you don't get used to it, you go really nutters or you end up dead. Just don't get too comfortable with it, okay?

Hey, I crush a bug and I feel guilty... I'm dealing right now with... something similar... A mistake... What you'd say, an error of judgement and naivete overriding logic. Ending in something I'm not proud of, and very guilty of. I'll explain the sordid details... when my concience allows. My doctors told me I should when I can.

Endeavor, there is nothing wrong with a healthy level of guilt.

Gotta go. Almost Payback Time.

Of course not. It tells me I still have a concience. I, quite frankly, have been ignoring a few things I need to get out, both in private, and here. I've said MANY stupid things and sooner or later, my words will catch up to me. I don't necessarily look foreward to it, but I've got to be brave and accept my licks when I get them. Guilt tells me I did something wrong. Jager, I hope you don't do something you'll feel guilty for. Stay safe.

Point. Actually, a really good point. ::Sigh:: My baseline self would have been horrified at some of the things I've done. I'm not sure I like the person I'm becoming.

There's nothing wrong with you.

I agree with Apep. Having a concience is not abnormal nor not being a Nova. Although I do not know what will work for you, what works for me is trying to make ammends for what I do. If it's not possible, I try to find some way where I can do the most good. I'm not saying become a utopian or something, I'm just saying you should do what's right by you.

Never lose that sense of justice. Nor that sense of loss. That's what makes us unique and sentient beings. It is, stangely enough, what we and Humans have in common. If only we had more.

The best thing to do is to preevaluate everything you do. Do not make decisions unless you are willing to deal with the consequences. Simple and clean.

If you can't do that then you definatley have some self searching to do.

Okay, I'm going to listen to you more closely. That's good advice. Thank you.

I really should follow that. You and everyone here knows I have a habit of placing my foot in the mouth. Tell you guys what. I say something stupid, smack me upside the head? Please? *Sees several others stare intently*

Er... not literally guys... O.o

To bring this back to the topic of space...

Have you guys left yet? If not do you have room for one more?

I will need a space suit, but might be able to provide some transport. Never tried to make a Portal into space before, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.

BTW I've been lurking for a while. Name's Meridian. Right now I'm a part-timer with Argus Agency.

Man. You guys stepping across the world or out of it just by wishing are really something else. I like what I do but kind of wish I gotten that as part of the package.

Keeping this on topic though I got to say I still agree with Arek. What is the attraction of going up there? Is it playing tourist or surviving in a place designed to kill you?

Man. You guys stepping across the world or out of it just by wishing are really something else. I like what I do but kind of wish I gotten that as part of the package.

Keeping this on topic though I got to say I still agree with Arek. What is the attraction of going up there? Is it playing tourist or surviving in a place designed to kill you?

Perhaps it is the risk. Because we are who we are we can casually do things that Humans have to make a huge event out of.

Space is... our playground I guess. Not to mention it allows me to blow a HUGE wad of money when I need to make a few donations. Daedalus sure is a money hog. And it's tax deductible! ^.^

But what games do you play up there?

I did the school report on Katrak so I've read the editorial and even I check out the league's opsite when I'm bored. I understand doing impossible things since we all do that at least a little. I can see wanting to know what a martian 'canal' looks like up close and if you can get away with it like Katrak I can even see walking across the sun.

But once you take in the view, answer a few hundred questions that puzzled mankind for centuries... Then what? Going into space is kewl in a where no man has gone before kind of way but what do you do after you've been there and gotten the t-shirt?

It's cool, no doubt about it. I wouldn't trade the ability to do this for anything ... but I've found that I envy some of the things I've seen others do too.

Honestly I'm still interested in exploring down here more than I am in zipping around space. I've still got cities I haven't been to and places I haven't seen yet.

For me the attraction of visiting space would just be the excitement of seeing something in person that I've never seen before.

I'm not really a sciencehead. Part of the excitement of visiting places here on Earth is seeing the culture, meeting the people, and eating the food. You don't get that in space. For me visiting space would be like visiting a wilderness area. I would appreciate it for its beauty or splendor, but that it.

Actually one of the things that interested me about this idea was that it was a group expedition. I was as interested in meeting people who wanted to go to space as I was about the trip itself.

Who knows though. Maybe I’ll change my mind after I’ve been there.

Well good luck with the trip and enjoy yourself if you can. I'm still wrapping my head around the idea of sticking a tube somewhere sensitive just in case I have to go to the bathroom.

Yick.

I'm keeping the feet on the ground for now.

Hello Meridian,

Guess you've got your answer by now

For me I, I don't see it in that way, there's no end of things to do, but then I don't need a space suit. To me telekinesis is pretty incredible but some Novas can do that with out much effort. Horses for courses, I guess, I do it because I can, I just love exploring. Meridian puts it best I think, it's a vast pristine wilderness, compelling in it's sheer difference from what you experience on earth.

And Endeavor, keep that money rolling in, we're gonna need at least another 100 mil for that Unitary Dish Full Electro-Magnetic Spectrum Space Telescope we're planning to stick out beyond Jupiter.

O.O 1... 1... 100 MILLION!?!?! What you're putting out there, a frigging DEATH STAR?!?! Jeezuz age CRIMENY dude! I'm a schoolgirl, not a bank! Seesh... There goes the expansion plans for Endeavor Point... And the Yacht Refit... And that trip to the bahamas... so way out... >.<

Calm down, you'll get wrinkles in your Hino polymer, we weren't expecting you to to cough up the cash

The plans are up on the opsite (along with a load of other stuff we can't afford) if you fancy building your own one.

Nah, I gotta have a yard sale anyways. I've been saving some royalties too. I can float the bill a bit. Might have to live on the Hikari-Maru, but I can pull it off. Gotta jet for now. More headshrinker jibba-jabba. toodles. ^.^

Walker that's a good answer. On another question - what is the array for?

Depending on the answer I think you may be going about this... Ah, not in the wrong way but that there might be better ways. Getting the it built, money, stuff like that.

Glad the explanation made sense, it's difficult explaining any 'hobby' to some one who doesn't think in exactly the same way.

The idea behind the UDFEMSST is that it would make both the Keplar and the refurbished Hubble space telescope look like cardboard tubes with a lense at each end, does that answer the question?

More technically the array is useful in that it can sense from the full spectrum from Radio to Gamma Rays simultaneously. We're sticking it out beyond Jupiter becasue the sensor elements are so sensitive that even indirect sunlight any closer would burn them out. It's over 20 KM across and a single dish because you get fantastic resolution compared to synthetic apperture arrays. That's the thinking behind that particular project. I'd like to hear your idea though and feel free to shoot the current idea down in flames if you're some sort of super genius (or just posses more common sense than us).

Walker, you should talk to Oscar Pasche over at Daedulus. We once spent a night discussing his theories on time dialation and "Reverse Quark Imaging". Not being the big brain that James is, I can only tell you it sounded like he wanted to create a device that could literally capture moments in space-time for study. Not just local coordinates, either. He said something about "spinning a thread out into the cosmos, reeling it back in, and cutting off a fragment of things we can not yet see." Make any sense to you?

Anyho, he wanted to build it somewhere beyond the asteroid belt because of solar interference or something like that. It sounds like something you would be interested in.

Super genius? I've never been saddled with that name before.

OK, I could have been a little more specific. What I should have said was who is going to gain from this gizmo. There must be lots of folks wanting to see what this can show them. Let them prove it to you. Offer the chance to buy in like it was a company. Use of the gizmo - priority and time allotted - decided by what they offer to contribute. Some of them may want to barter 'stead of offering up wads of cash.

The second thing is a little money and little 'other'. There's suppose be lots of stuff out there in asteroids and planets but it don't sound like you got somebody that can do something about it. See about getting yourself a nova that can take all of that nothing and do something with it. Mining sounds like damn hard work. A nova that can shove ten tons of rock out of the way might be good to have. Or one that can find what your looking for just by looking. There's even a couple of us that can take a ton of nickel or iron and turn it into something useful like on the spot.

Might be worth looking into.

Yeah, it's a grand idea and it sounds a bit like what I do when I take a peak at the future and past. We are helping out with the research in the lab but naturally he's having a bit of a problem trying to isolate those damn quarks. Still if he succeeds it would not only be a telescope but a timescope as well, maybe we should try and seek funding from historical organisations as well as those interested in space.

Cody,
Yeah we're ALWAYS begging for money from any organisation we think might possibly be interested, but one of the reasons the League was set up was to push the exploration further and faster than governments or organisations would or could be bothered to fund.

I like your idea of getting some additional nova help on the building side, I don't suppose you happen to know anyone that could help make something that big and complex by using their node and a splash of quantum juice and who would be interested?

Now I know I am not the rishest of person.But I have an income with more than enough money to give out a little bit here and there.

Would a grand or two a month be put to good use in DL?I mean i don't know much about space,and really id on't want to go there, but I do know that ina somewhat odd way I am alive because of NASA.So even if I do not care about what is in space, good things come from it.

Don't want to disappoint you Walker but my circel of nova buddies is four counting the two Utopians I knocked heads with. I might know somebody that can help you if what you want can be done from Earth.

It depends on exactly what you need.

All donations gratefully received, details of how to donate can be found on the opnet site, each project's got it's own account so you can choose where the money goes. As you note, many discoveries about space and technical inovations developed for space have spin offs that can be used on earth, that sensor array, scaled down and modified slightly could make an excellent medical imaging system for example.

Thanks for the offer Cody, it depends very much on whether this person can manipulate matter down to the nanometre level. The specifications for the individual elements of the array are up on the site if they want to take a look.