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#25219 - 02/13/04 01:43 AM A few words
Agnelli Celeste Offline
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In all life,there is meaning.Not all life have the same meaning.Even,if we had the same meaning in life,I think we would have to find it on our own.

For me,to tell you the meaning of life,I would either be unable to properly convey the words,or you may be unable to understand the meaning.What I am trying to say,is that I think,not only must the teacher be able,the pupil must be ready.Like all things truly worth knowing,one must let the knowledge flow in,rather than forcing it down.One must,take parts,of ideas and let them form greater wholes.

But,then again we all have find some things on our own.
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#25220 - 02/13/04 06:41 AM Re: A few words
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It is held by some that, to be effective, the teacher must be willing to learn as well as the pupil to teach. I hold this to mean at the extreme that the all-knowing teacher is no longer capable of instructing.

One need to look no further than novas of great skill or knowledge to see an example of this.
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#25221 - 02/13/04 06:26 PM Re: A few words
Miss Baby Offline
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Registered: 05/24/03
Posts: 224
Loc: DeeCee
You misunderstood the meaning.Half of learning is teaching.This doesn't mean half of teaching is learning.It is a rather common mistake.Rather like the saying have your cake and eat it too.

Why would you have a cake,if you weren't going to eat it?The proper saying is"To eat your cake and have it too".

But back to learning,and teaching.Lerning can be a one way flow of data.I am not saying this is the best way,,but look at punlic school.Indead schools as a whole.We see teachers standing in front of classes of students,who passively hear the teacher speak.They may read,and they may do other things along those lines,but they are mainly passive.In no way,are they teaching the teacher anything.Now, this is not the best way to learn,but it works.

As for the ideals that the teachers should learn,,then I say yes.They do not have to,but learning something new, rarely hurts.

So,wile that saying in order to learn,one must teach, is pleasant.It is not wholistic true.It just happens to be better than the other practical means.
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#25222 - 02/13/04 07:17 PM Re: A few words
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If we might focus more on the matter at hand and less on a fascination with baked goods? Be so kind as to direct your attention thusly; we - you and I - continue to play our part in proving the very point presented to you.

It is a sad state, para provar uma idéia despised, yet no less true for that.
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#25223 - 02/16/04 12:40 PM Re: A few words
Jager Offline
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The best teachers inspire others to learn ... either about the world, or themselves.
There are a multitude of pitfalls and mistakes out there, and a good teacher can figure out which ones need to be experienced, and which ones you can protect others from.

Enough vagueries for me. Back to the jungle.
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#25224 - 02/16/04 03:15 PM Re: A few words
(2018) Endeavor Offline
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Registered: 05/25/02
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Loc: Tokyo
There are 3 ways of learning something.

1: Being taught. Tried, True, and probably the safest and most efficient way of learning.
2: Teaching Yourself. It works, but mistakes can cause inadequate or inaccurate results.
3: Just doing it and letting experience teach you. The most mistakes and troubles happen here. Don't trust a brain surgeon who learned this way. ~.^

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#25225 - 02/19/04 12:55 PM Re: A few words
Jager Offline
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Let's not forget

4. Dying from some dumb-ass mistake before you can learn.
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#25226 - 02/19/04 01:05 PM Re: A few words
Matryoshka Offline
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And Jager,we all know why you brought that one up.

Naughty,boy.
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#25227 - 03/26/04 06:03 PM Re: A few words
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Registered: 03/25/04
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How does the saying go? "Those who can do, those who can't teach". Sounding pretty true to me. Maybe we should coem with one for learning. "Those who learn do, those don't die horribly and painfully at some later point"?
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#25228 - 03/27/04 04:57 PM Re: A few words
Charr Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Destiny:
"Those who learn do, those don't die horribly and painfully at some later point"?
Yep. One zip at a time, baby.

One zip at a time.

Though it might surprise some to learn how many come to jesus when they realize they can't lie to me, buy me or get me to shed a tear with their fucking excuses. Had some even thank me for being fair enough to only kill their guilty shithead friends.
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#25229 - 03/27/04 08:17 PM Re: A few words
Destiny Offline
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Registered: 03/25/04
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It nice to see some one looking after neigbourhood. However Charr what is it you actually do other than kills Zips for fun and profit?
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#25230 - 03/27/04 08:28 PM Re: A few words
Charr Offline
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Not much profit and the fun is more like satisfaction in a job well done especially with the clever little bastards that think they can get away with anything because they're (fill in the blank) and high Lord Zip. The killing gets a lot of attention but it's more than that. Demonstrations, sabotage, civil disobedience and generally tweaking Herr Yoo-pee at every turn. Depends on what the zip master race did to merit my attention.

Lots of stuff going on under the oceans, mate. You should come along sometime. Aside from the fucking whales its great and the one place you can have near total freedom especially when you have my advantages. Zips are less sure of themselves down there but still think they have carte blanche to pull whatever their nodeless noodles come up with. And sometimes I get the opportunity to teach.

Someone other than uppity zips.
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#25231 - 03/28/04 11:21 AM Re: A few words
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Registered: 03/25/04
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Loc: manchester
Oceans, thats cool but I rather just flop about being myself for time being. But I don't have time for the good fight just yet. To busy actually enjoying myself to go zip splating at the moment.
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#25232 - 03/28/04 06:54 PM Re: A few words
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I just love some of the thinking among non-aligned novas involving NV, and Charr.

It's one thing to say "Yeah, we're better than they are. They (baselines) shouldn't treat us the way they do."

Then they get a close-up look at Charr's handiwork, and all that fluffy thinking goes out the window. Its been interesting to see the growing anti-Teragen current among the otherwise unconcerned.
Distrusting Utopia comes pretty easy. Getting novas to decide that the Teragen is just as bad, or worse, took some work.
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#25233 - 03/28/04 07:09 PM Re: A few words
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Teragen, Yoo-pee. Who cares. Why bother about the other Nova? If they don't have the sense they where born with or the second shot sense they erupted with, why care? We don't have to let there mistakes or Teragen boggie men stories bother us or even let zips get in our way. We rule, we get paid more, get the best clubs and don't even need to pay for health care 'cos we don't need it. Go Us. Anyone who can't see that well, leave them behind.
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#25234 - 03/28/04 08:41 PM Re: A few words
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Loc: Alexandria Egypt
Two see only two extremes is to miss the opportunities that exist between. We know our place within the universe without overlooking that of other beings. Conflict is likely but not inevitable.
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#25235 - 03/28/04 08:49 PM Re: A few words
Charr Offline
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What a crock of shit, Jager.

Let me break it down for you, home slice. It's you and the rest of the "non-aligned", hand wringing, do-nothing fucks that make this a moral imperative. Arguing philosophy? Oh, yeah that really matters to the novas paying the price for your complacency. Smile for those non-aligned jerk offs when they take a money shot in the eye being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Pat their head and tell them they have the moral high ground while Zippy and the Yoo-pees ram it up from behind.

When the shit comes down and they're backed against the wall for the fucking crime of not being zip enough for the monkeys, their little hearts are going to pitter patter hoping I'm somewhere near. Because they know I don't screw around, back down and that I'll go to the wall for them. Go figure they might find that more useful then ten thousand words from anonymous node-bearing dickheads or the righteous indignation of a bunch of "unaligned" assholes with no intentions of doing a damn thing.

And kiss my armor plated ass while you're at it.
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#25236 - 03/28/04 09:47 PM Re: A few words
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Unaligned doesn't mean uncaring, Charr-booballa.

Put it this way;
Its their world too, and you're messing with them, though you don't see it that way.
It also means not having to play by all those inconvienent rules.
It also means having the anonimoty that is the Teragen hallmark.
Makes things interesting.
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#25237 - 03/28/04 09:58 PM Re: A few words
Ghostwriter Offline
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Posts: 1552
Still as charming as ever, I see.

Charr, the ends don't justify the means. If that were the case, I would have every right to go and render my husband dead instead of the near-vegetable I made him when I finished my eruption. I am not proud of what I did and I never will.

If I'm ever in the situation where I need your help, I'll fall down and worship you. But until then, please accept that I think you're a jackass.

As for kissing your arse, I wouldn't touch it if it were the last one in the world.

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#25238 - 03/28/04 10:19 PM Re: A few words
Vixen Offline
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Registered: 11/18/02
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Loc: Seattle, WA
I wouldn't touch Charr's arse if he was the last man left on Earth and there were no batteries left for my vibrator.
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#25239 - 03/28/04 11:13 PM Re: A few words
Wakinyan Offline
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Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 3214
We sure do get along better than humanity don't we?

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#25240 - 03/29/04 06:10 AM Re: A few words
Jager Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Posts: 4725
Loc: Apex, NC.
Well Totem, power does let us hold more extreme views than the baseline, so .....

Rare is the nova that just wants to get along. It must have something to do with the whole "power to change the world" thing.

How ya been?
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#25241 - 03/29/04 06:32 AM Re: A few words
Destiny Offline
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Registered: 03/25/04
Posts: 22
Loc: manchester
Jager power doesn't let hold anything more extreme then baselines (not counting of big brained gits who and more ideas then is safe for anyone brain, they might just up new ways to be extreme). Power just means we're less worried about shooting them off in public and Zips are less likely laugh.
As much as you put yourself beyond all that stuff looking like a freak doesn't make you one no matter how hard you try. Really i know.
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#25242 - 03/29/04 08:30 AM Re: A few words
Charr Offline
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Registered: 12/16/03
Posts: 458
Loc: Right behind your ass...
Quote:
Originally posted by Jager:
Unaligned doesn't mean uncaring, Charr-booballa.
And since you have zero intention of getting off your erupted ass and doing something for this nova right now the difference would be...? Its all about the status quo for you and the rest of the hand wringers. Yeah, yeah, you're all set to defend zips but quietly step around the fact that your worthless complacency justifies not doing dick for the novas. Uncaring or complacent; zip Webster might give a shit about the difference but the novas getting fucked don't.

Ball-less sure, but unaligned? Not standing in line to take a money shot with rest of the yoo-pee zombies doesn't make you unaligned.

There ain't a Santa Claus either. Sorry to be the one.

Quote:
Originally posted by Codex:
Charr, the ends don't justify the means. If that were the case...
How convenient. Zip morality justifies the same self-nullifying rationalizations that's become your life. Lucky you.

And if you want a little snuggle time baby just say so. I love the subtle way you managed to put in that little submissive seque to dropping and worshipping. You really don't seem my type but you wouldn't be the first Librarian looking for a little taboo to break the grey monotony of your existence.

Quote:
Originally posted by Vixen:
I wouldn't touch Charr's arse if he was the last man left on Earth and there were no batteries left for my vibrator.
You said arse. smile

Loosen up and with a little effort you could work your way up to "self pleasure", "auto-erotic" or talking about your "flower". Hehehe

Another fucking mediocrity queen. Aren't you suppose to be hunting fairies with your zip boytoy to explain flower pollenization or writing a thesis on unicorns? So nice of you to join the living, Princess.
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#25243 - 03/29/04 10:02 AM Re: A few words
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Loc: manchester
In case it wasn't clear
"As much as you put yourself beyond all that stuff looking like a freak doesn't make you one no matter how hard you try. Really i know. " Was aimed at you Charr.
You sound like everyone else down the ages "I'm looking after you, and my fellow freak". Well get this, You make think having a cause makes you better then anyone else, but it don't and you ain't looking after me.. It ain't not better than a thesis about unicorns. The whole thing is just one ego trip caused on liked you at school. Deal get over it, and get laid.
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#25244 - 03/29/04 01:27 PM Re: A few words
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Well, well. Little Desi wants to stand up and be counted. Okay, let's jump right to the heart of your flawed little post-pubescent drunken prom queen rationale.

Who the fuck are you calling a freak, dipshit?

Oh, and I do get laid, sweet cheeks. Often enough that Codex's semi-lurid but oh so erudite come ons don't particularly interest me.

Yet. smile
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#25245 - 03/29/04 02:12 PM Re: A few words
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Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 3214
You know Charr you don't have the market cornered on the I'm different than everyone else market but you sure have the majority of stock in the teen like angst in a warped nova body. You're just so damn likeable I guess.

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#25246 - 03/29/04 02:29 PM Re: A few words
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Registered: 07/23/01
Posts: 2967
Loc: Tokyo, Japan
Why do I believe that Codex's and Char's little spats have inspired an entire generation of erotic Nova-based fiction?
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#25247 - 03/29/04 04:02 PM Re: A few words
Charr Offline
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Doing my part getting some literary shit out there.

I'm pretty much a hunt and peck kind of nova but my nasty nova appendages beat the hell out of fingers for speed. And all other sorts of things... smile

What can I say. They dig the tentacles.
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#25248 - 03/29/04 04:16 PM Re: A few words
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Charr = Terat. Okay, got it.
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#25249 - 03/29/04 04:43 PM Re: A few words
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I dunno. Charr looks like Charr to me.
Most Terats are snooty and uppity, he just seems like an ass. smile

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#25250 - 03/29/04 04:47 PM Re: A few words
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Totem, how nice. However, if you had wanted to try to offend as many people as possible you forgot to take a shot at our brothers in Utopia.
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#25251 - 03/29/04 05:47 PM Re: A few words
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Charr, you look more like something they'd serve up in the Talaud Island cafeteria than anything I would choose to have a sexual relationship with. Hell, I'd become a lesbian sooner than get laid by you.

No offence to Warlady, Ana or Ragnarockette or anyone else in the QNA meant by that comment.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - there are Terats I respect and even cautiously like. Ashnod, for instance. But I think you're the biggest fuck in existance, Charr, and ought to be served on a seafood platter garnished by lemon and tartar sauce. I always did have a liking for calamari, if not in the bestial sexuality you think I'm into.

Vixen, if you want, PM me. I reckon us Utopian girls ought to stick together, and it'd be nice to talk to another psychic with half a brain and some ethics.

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#25252 - 03/29/04 07:20 PM Re: A few words
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Funny how you always manage to get it around to comparing me with something going in your mouth.

Said it before, say it again:

They dig the tentacles.
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#25253 - 03/29/04 07:25 PM Re: A few words
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Sick fuck. I'd sooner take poison.

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#25254 - 03/29/04 07:29 PM Re: A few words
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That's what you say when the other slumming yoo-pees are hanging around playing voyeur in our personal business.

You want me.
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#25255 - 03/29/04 07:36 PM Re: A few words
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I already took my shot at Utopia which is why I was uninvited to play in Bahrain, thank you.

You'd think these where a bunch of high school cliques. We got the jock, preppy Utopians and the cool, rebel Terats. Does it seem like I am missing something? It seems like it's pretty well covered to me.

It's only an insult if you don't like what is being said.

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#25256 - 03/29/04 07:39 PM Re: A few words
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When hell freezes over.

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#25257 - 03/29/04 07:39 PM Re: A few words
Charr Offline
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Too true, Totes.

I got to wonder what it is about these repressed yoo-pee novas and their outlaw fantasies. Sure she grew up on all that cheesy Tales of the AEON Society crap but come on. The reality is ever so much more than she could handle.
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#25258 - 03/29/04 07:41 PM Re: A few words
Charr Offline
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