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#30249 - 09/30/04 08:18 PM
A Bad, Bad Couple of Weeks
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Baseline
Registered: 05/19/04
Loc: Washington, DC
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Hey again, everybody. It's good to be back around, even after everything. With all that's been going on, coming back here almost feels like "normal", whatever that is. Some of you may have heard about Tn2M's latest action, the one going on in Burundi. I was part of the detachment that had been sent, and we'd been helping with flood relief. The rains had really hit the capital, Bujumbura, very hard, and Lake Tanganyika overflowed its banks, wiping out more than half of the lower city, where all the poor folk live. We were working on getting the waters down to more manageable levels when some elites from Congo came over and started making trouble. We still haven't figured out why, but Guys, I'm really sorry. I've been back for two weeks now and this is still really hard to discuss. You can't just pretend nothing happened after seeing things like that. I'm sure Mr. Very Bad and some of you combat vets like Mr. Ronin and Mr. Jager could have handled it, but I'm still having a lot of trouble dealing with some of the things I saw. It's so...dammit. I just don't know. For god's sake, that bastard, Creature, he must have done something...something to the cobras in the lake. There's only supposed to be a small number of storm's water cobra in the lake, but there were thousands crawling around one morning. All those children bitten and dying, their faces and arms all swollen and black, and...god, I just don't know, anymore. It's so hard to remember, to even think about. God, how do you guys do it? How did I??
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#30253 - 10/01/04 12:23 PM
Re: A Bad, Bad Couple of Weeks
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Nova
Registered: 01/20/01
Loc: Apex, NC.
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Stephanie, the first thing you need to remember is that it is in the nature of Project Utopia's agenda to "be on the defensive." Meaning that you and yours will doing your jobs (relief/security/escort) and will be the ones attacked. This will put you at a disadvantage, obviously.
There is also the bureaucratic mindset that says "a nova with destructive powers can fight". Going into combat is as much a matter of psychology as power. Elites chose that line of work. They accept the reality that they will be in situations were they will have to attack and kill people. BTW, that is why your handlers at T2M put you into the situations you are in. If you don't think so, why don't you re-examine the history of Central Africa for the past 15 years. Try the past 50 for that matter. Blood, death, and tears. I am not saying you, or PU, shouldn't be there, but that you should very much realize that you are treading on very bloody ground.
From a tactical point of view ... it looks like one nova provided a pretty good distraction for five Teen2Mers. Not my thing, but I have seen enough like it in previous actions.
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#30259 - 10/02/04 12:52 AM
Re: A Bad, Bad Couple of Weeks
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Nova
Registered: 06/11/02
Loc: New York
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Blue Cherry: Smith, you are only telling her two means of dealing a problem with many ways of handling it. Actually I said three, but your point is sound. Other people unburden themselves to priests, still others through lots of meaningless sex. Stephanie, In general there are constructive and destructive ways of dealing with it. Don't hurt yourself. Blue Cherry: ...By sending her to to a shrink to soon you may do more damage than good. There we disagree. It is evendent that this is bothering her, and she realizes that enough to post it. She should act before a little problem becomes a big problem.
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#30265 - 10/03/04 11:59 AM
Re: A Bad, Bad Couple of Weeks
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Nova
Registered: 01/20/01
Loc: Apex, NC.
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Saimhe take a deep, deep breath. One doesn't have to be a T2Mer (or Teen2Mer) to have an understanding of battle stress. You belonged to an elite organization, but not the only one by any means.
Dervish, post here and expect a response from just about anybody, so calm the fuck down.
A Blue Cherry is a drink at the Amp Room, nothing more. I'm not sure why someone would take that as a name, or accept it as a handle, but I've heard of worse.
Blue, if you have some secret understanding of Teen Tomorrows inner workings, please let us know. Otherwise, let's give their organization a chance to reach out and help one of thier own. Of all of us, Parks probably has the best grasp on what it is to be a teen-hero under these kinds of pressures.
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#30269 - 10/05/04 06:07 PM
Re: A Bad, Bad Couple of Weeks
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Nova
Registered: 03/12/04
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Well, Seeing as Codex is so intent on my past, look the files I put up on my things of interest web site. It has files of me on film in Santa Mary, after it was hit by "freedom fighter", who were killed by a third party during the act of setting the town on fire. You will see me in the back ground build and repairing houses. There are also numerous sound files of me calling in criminal acts, ranging from ranging from "Christ" setting fire to :muder clinics" in the bible belt, to drive by shootings, and novas wanting to see how many times they could get an SUV to flip. And there are many clips of people who claimed to see me engaged in battle with novas ranging from The US, too the cape of no hope. But really Codex, if you want more details and dates, you will have to talk to my lawyer.
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#30271 - 10/05/04 10:30 PM
Re: A Bad, Bad Couple of Weeks
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Baseline
Registered: 09/12/04
Loc: Dayton Ohio
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Look
Holocaust, alot of good points were put out there before it digressed into a pissing contest between the femmes. I don't know their past, and frankly i don't wanna get into it.
Doctor Smith has a good head on his shoulders. the point he was trying to make was, don't let it eat at you. don't end up like some of these pathetic idiots on here, feeling hollow.
know what you did was a great thing, and made an impact on people. some people were hurt and killed, but you were there trying to help. believe that they saw you there.
and finally, if it really bothers you. find someway that you're comfortable dealing with it. therapist, priest, boyfriend, journals, whatever works for you.
but what do i know? i'm just a muscle bound college jock.
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#30276 - 10/08/04 07:04 PM
Re: A Bad, Bad Couple of Weeks
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Nova
Registered: 06/23/02
Loc: Tricomolee, Sri Lanka
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Originally posted by Liam Stewart: TAG: Hang with elites much?
You'd fit in. No, little brother, I would not fit in. A few elites may share my beliefs, but I doubt most do. Originally posted by Liam Stewart: TAG: I'm not ashamed to fail. I'd only be ashamed if I couldn't be bothered to try. There is nothing wrong with try and failing, unless you make a habit of it. It is a shame that you fail because you let other, less capable, beings hold you back from succeeding. I am a Terat. I see nothing wrong with helping, protecting, and teaching baselines. It is something I chose to do. I see it as part of my destiny as a nova. It is a mistake to assume that all Terats are your natural enemy.
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#30277 - 10/09/04 04:20 AM
Re: A Bad, Bad Couple of Weeks
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Nova
Registered: 08/07/04
Loc: Houston, Amsterdam or Addis Ab...
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How did you put it Bastian? Do not claim to defend what you can not defend, or avenge. Just another of way of saying don't bother with what you can't succeed one your own terms or at least make someone pay the penalty for your failure? I'd think you'd fit in just fine with that attitude. And I didn't feel need to throw a match into a pile of rags or screw over somebody because they use the same brand of matches. I'm not like you or your friends.
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#30278 - 10/09/04 05:17 AM
Re: A Bad, Bad Couple of Weeks
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Nova
Registered: 10/08/04
Loc: San Diego
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Whoa. Steph, Holocaust...Let me apologize for the coverage of that whole event with the cobras...The television stations don't really like to think of you Utopia people as "real" people sometimes. Since no one officially took credit for the snakes the standard 2 Minute Hate whack-jobs have been fighting for the right to say it was their's once the footage started bringing in the ratings. On top of that...the footage was traumatically popular. Sick world on more than just one level. Wait. I'm being serious. You people are contagious... Originally posted by Blue Cherry: And Jager, the drink was named after me. What Nova doesn't have a drink named after them somewhere? There's a cult of personality thing linked to most us. I recommend getting the N! BarteNding Guide (or whatever they call it) if you don't already have it. I also recommend the the Cherry Bomb since it tastes a hell of a lot better than my drink...which seems to have been created on a dare by sophomores. Blue Cherry? My favorite Fanta flavor. Um, and Blue Cherry: Who the hell is "Evry Truth"? Is that short for Everett?
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#30279 - 10/09/04 07:26 AM
Re: A Bad, Bad Couple of Weeks
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Nova
Registered: 06/23/02
Loc: Tricomolee, Sri Lanka
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Originally posted by Liam Stewart: TAG: How did you put it Bastian? Do not claim to defend what you can not defend, or avenge. Just another of way of saying don't bother with what you can't succeed (on) your own terms or at least make someone pay the penalty for your failure? No. That is not what I am saying. For starters, if you promise to protect someone, and another takes their life, you have not failed unless you do not try to punish the transgressor. You must acknowledge the powers of others, just as they must acknowledge you and your power. Accept the fact that you do not act in a vaccum. You live in a world full of novas. Do not be afraid to stand up for what you believe in, nor let others stop you from doing what you feel is right. That is the principle of self-governance. It is not saying "I can do whatever I like", but saying "I will do what I will, with the acceptance that there will be consequences for my actions". The former is selfishness. The latter is self-responsibility. Originally posted by Liam Stewart: TAG: I'd think you'd fit in just fine with that attitude. And I didn't feel need to throw a match into a pile of rags or screw over somebody because they use the same brand of matches.
I'm not like you or your friends. You do not understand me, it seems. Nor, are we as different as you would believe.
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#30281 - 10/09/04 01:15 PM
Re: A Bad, Bad Couple of Weeks
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Nova
Registered: 08/07/04
Loc: Houston, Amsterdam or Addis Ab...
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No. That is not what I am saying. Then don't say that. As someone with no special talent for languages that's had to learn two in the last couple of months I know the spoken or written word isn't always clear. Take your time, think about what you really want to say and then say it. You should be fine. You do not understand me, it seems. Nor, are we as different as you would believe. Maybe you're right. Or maybe I don't understand the man you want to be but see the man you are. Hard to say. Time will tell.
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#30285 - 10/10/04 02:24 PM
Re: A Bad, Bad Couple of Weeks
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Nova
Registered: 06/23/02
Loc: Tricomolee, Sri Lanka
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Originally posted by Liam Stewart: TAG: Not "save" the world. What would you call it? Originally posted by Liam Stewart: TAG: Telepath aren't you? Yes. Did you figure that out on your own, or did you have the vast Utopian bureaucracy help you? Originally posted by Liam Stewart: TAG: It all goes your way when you're in someone's brain but a simple conversation in another medium and suddenly it all falls apart. No. Being a telepath allows me to cut through all the veiled insults, double-talk, and false faces. Telepathic rapport brings about honesty and openess, TAG. It also rapidly exposes the opposite. Taking that experience over to verbal communications is child's play. Originally posted by Liam Stewart: TAG: Lashing out. Becomes just about you. Not really. Your condescending attitude raised its ugly head first. You have made this about you, and your skewed world view. Originally posted by Liam Stewart: TAG: Say what you mean or mean what you say. Might not seem like a big thing now but I think it will be eventually (that's just best guess). But I do, TAG. I do. You either can't, or won't, understand me. And, again with the condescending insult. Typical. Originally posted by Liam Stewart: TAG: I'm sorry about your pain. I sincerely doubt it. You are so used to being false-faced, after all. Originally posted by Liam Stewart: TAG: That doesn't mean I'm going to put up with your crap. In that, we can agree. I don't plan to put up with your crap either. ..... A Natural Disaster struck. Project Utopia told the people effected to not worry about responding to the crisis with their own abilities and resources They would take care of it, and them. Another group of novas attacked (I don't know why), and the people pinned in by Utopia became victims of this nova attack. Utopia said it would save them, and they are now dead. Utopia promised => Utopia failed to deliver. I don't blame the novas in Teen2M for this. I don't expect them to stand up to teams of elites. I do blame the baseline thinking behind this failure for placing the novas in this situation, then binding their hands with what they could and couldn't do. If novas are going to defend and protect baselines, they should do it on their terms, not the terms (and limited by the thinking) of baselines.
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