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#32984 - 01/10/05 05:17 PM "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Jager Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Loc: Apex, NC.
For Eris;

Quote:
Originally posted by Eris:
Bad things and good things happen around me. Just because a car flips through the air in front of me in flames doesn't mean the guy who bent over to pick up a quarter wasn't saved as the car went just over his head.
Yes, but it usually spells very bad things for the people in the flaming, flipping car.

Quote:
Originally posted by Eris:
Have you ever once thought that maybe I really do not cause these things to happen? Maybe I am compelled to be near these things by some quantum sense and subconscious reasons?
Oh, the possibility occured to me, but the evidence posted by you led me in the "It's your fault" direction. See below.

Quote:
Originally posted by Eris:
No, you would rather just assume there is another Nova bad guy for you to take down someday. I guess Ashnod will be the bad guy you need. I'll just play cheerleader for her.
I don't see Ashnod as "bad", or a "guy".
I don't think you are evil, just that you don't give a damn about all the suffering that goes on around you. See what follows, posted by you:

Crap. I gotta go a plane just crashed into the other side of my apartment.... I hate it when that happens..

Then, responding to the question of this happening alot around you ...
Does it! I am so sick of plane crashes. Fire hydrants exploding. I have been in a car crash everytime I have been in a car in the past two years and not once was it my fault!

It get's old after awhile believe me. Last night I watched my apartment burn to the ground this morning I won a new home in some sweepstakes I don't even recall entering.

So you get a new apartment and a plane crashes into it. Hmmmm ...

Back in the early days people hung around me to see what weird thing would happen next. After the spontaneous combustion incident that stopped. I really have to focus to keep the 'weird' away. But around other Novas it's not a big a deal. I mean a lot of you just don't care if a bus falls out of the sky on top of you so it's like a big joke..

Yeah... That's it... Joke.

Look Jerker I don't make anything around me happen. It just does. Now if I try I can get the weirdness to stop. Sure maybe my vicinity causes it.

I've been payin attention to your posts, Eris.

Planes crash around you all the time. PLANES ... They usually have people on board, ya know?

Fire hydrants explode ... but does this help put out the people spontaneously combusting? If so, that is a bit of good luck to go with the phenomenally bad.

The biggest clue is the "I really have to focus to keep the 'weird' away" comment, which seems to indicate you know you are a focus for this wild proability fluxuations. Since I don't see these things happening often, if at all, unless novas are involved, I kinda go looking for the nova. Silly me.
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#32985 - 01/10/05 05:27 PM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Eris Offline
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Registered: 06/04/04
Yes silly you.

When it happens so often you have to accept it or get used to it. That or shoot yourself, I tried the guns never work.

So holocaust cannot control herself she destroys everything around her. I don't see you admonishing her. But then again they found a way to contain her didn't they? How do you contain chance and probability? If I am the cause of all this how do you stop me? I don't like the thought of being Moxed to the gills and I don't want to be put in some hut in the middle of nowhere.

So what's your answer then blondie? Don't give me a "learn to control your powers" speech either I have heard enough of those already. I want a real answer.
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#32986 - 01/10/05 05:44 PM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Jager Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Loc: Apex, NC.
What to do about you?

Thankfully, that's not my call.
There is no need for the "learn to control your powers" speech, either. You already know how to focus so the bad shit doesn't happen. You elect not to.

The situation is this: You don't want to spend your time focusing your will to contain the effect, you don't want to take mind-numbing drugs necessary, and you don't want to cramp your happening lifestyle by staying out of harms way.

So, you are okay with the constant loss of life and property. You are okay with sparing the one guy's life whose in the street getting that quarter, even if it costs an innocent family-of-four their lives.

You see no reason to stop having a great time, no matter what the cost. As long as we are all clear with that, fine by me.
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#32987 - 01/10/05 06:16 PM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Ashnod Offline
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Registered: 05/19/01
Quote:
Originally posted by Eris:
I really have to focus to keep the 'weird' away
Jager does have a point, Eris. If you are able to suppress the 'weird' from happening, then you are by default responsible for what happens when you do not.

How you choose to deal with that is up to you.
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#32988 - 01/10/05 10:25 PM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Tarot Offline
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Registered: 10/29/04
Loc: Havana
I just wanted to say that I spat mango juice all over the keyboard when I read the title of this thread. Only just got it cleaned up and the keys are still sticky.

Jake's going to kill me. It was Andy's computer that I was only suppose to be borrowing for a couple of days after MindByte roasted mine trying to download every single piece of snowball porn on the planet.

Shit.

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#32989 - 01/10/05 11:09 PM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Jager Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Loc: Apex, NC.
My master plan is working ... good.
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#32990 - 01/11/05 01:48 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Eris Offline
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Registered: 06/04/04
You are right. It takes a level of concentration that I do not wish to extend over myself 24 hours a day. I have to stop myself when I think I should walk down a particular street. I have to stop myself from looking over my shoulder.

I don't want to have to spend my life thinking about things not happening.

So am I responsible if I don't? If you think so. I refuse to live my life second guessing every little thing that goes wrong anywhere near. I will let other decide if that makes me a criminal or evil.
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#32991 - 01/11/05 01:59 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Access Offline
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Registered: 08/04/04
Loc: Chicago
If you claim you can halt it by concentrating, then logic dictates that you are responsible for every accident that happens from your lack of concentration.

Now Tarot, please, allow me to fix your PC, won't take long, and I can probably give it some upgrades while I'm at it.
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#32992 - 01/11/05 02:05 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Wakinyan Offline
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Registered: 01/24/04
So we murder just for existing now? Really how many of us manifest aberrations that are harmful to baselines? All I see Eris as being is 'potientially' harmful. Hell I wouldn't mind her being around when I bought a lotto ticket. I'd just like her to leave right afterward.

Sure my anger could kill someone and I keep it under wraps. But doesn't Prodidy have something bad about his aberrations? Can you confirm that Prodigy? I know there are a lot of people that have negative effects on humans. Even if it doesn't include death. Slattern walks into a room and an orgy starts it might not be consentual afterward but it is when it happens.

I understand that we MUST draw the line at "Your aberration ends where the other person begins" but what do we do about it? Punishments for something you may or may not have any control over?

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#32993 - 01/11/05 02:09 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Edison Offline
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Registered: 01/03/05
I think I'll continue to persist in my probability controlled free corner of the US.

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#32994 - 01/11/05 02:14 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Eris Offline
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Registered: 06/04/04
Quote:
Originally posted by Bandwidth:
If you claim you can halt it by concentrating, then logic dictates that you are responsible for every accident that happens from your lack of concentration.
Let me elaborate more on what concentration is. A near meditative state in which I can do little to NOTHING else. Meaning I cannot interact or even eat without breaking that state.

Out of the accidents that happen in my general vicnity I have counted 6 people who have died. Sure I have lost count of people who get hurt but it is anything from a papercut to a compound fracture. Is it my lot in life to become a hermit in meditation? Hells no, I am not and will not forfeit my life just because some stupid kid dared his friend to try and grind on the ledge of a three story building and failed.

OMFG mad you guys are a bunch of dudely do rights. Punish me, form a angry mob and come after me with pitch forks. I know I must have killed so much more than Cull or DeathSquad I am OBVIOUSLY the bigger threat. :rolleyes:
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#32995 - 01/11/05 02:17 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Edison Offline
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Registered: 01/03/05
You're telling me planes and helicopters crash and only 6 people have died? Either you are lucky for people and unlucky for machines, or you're lying.

I wouldn't have such a big deal with it myself if you didn't say you enjoyed the zaniness...makes me wonder how much you've increased my car insurance and you thought the zaniness was entertaining.

Anyway, I'm done with this, it's going nowhere, and while little ol glowing me can say the same thing over and over, you can say the opposite, and neither of our minds are changing.

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#32996 - 01/11/05 02:20 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Ashnod Offline
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Registered: 05/19/01
Quote:
Originally posted by Eris:
Let me elaborate more on what concentration is. A near meditative state in which I can do little to NOTHING else. Meaning I cannot interact or even eat without breaking that state.
That is certainly a different scenario from what your original words had led us to believe. Thank you for clarifying this, Eris.
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#32997 - 01/11/05 06:23 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Jager Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Loc: Apex, NC.
Yes, thanks for that clarification on what "focusing" means to you, as well on the body count. Should I take it the planes were relatively unoccupied?

Forget it. You don't care and that's enough of an answer for me.
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#32998 - 01/11/05 08:04 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Walker Offline
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Registered: 06/20/02
I dunno, Jager, maybe getting to like the crazyness is the only thing you can do in a situation like that. If it was you what would you do? Hide away from everyone concentrating on turning off the power? For the rest of your Nova enhanced lifespan? Would YOU really be able to avoid company for THAT long?
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#32999 - 01/11/05 08:49 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Edward Offline
Nova

Registered: 12/15/04
Loc: With my friends.
Quote:
Originally posted by Eris:
I know I must have killed so much more than Cull or DeathSquad I am OBVIOUSLY the bigger threat. :rolleyes:
Possibly. How many have you killed? I myself am only the main suspect in four slayings to my understanding.
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#33000 - 01/11/05 08:59 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Tarot Offline
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Registered: 10/29/04
Loc: Havana
Bandwidth thanks, but no upgrades are required. I just want to get it back in in a condition that doesn't require an unpleasant conversation where I have to explain spitting juice.

Eris weird shit happens. You just see it more clearly than most.

Jager and Ashnod somehow I'm confident that your eruptions have been seen as "really bad" for someone. Probably a lot of someones over a lot of time. You're not really going to take responsibility for that are you?

Why should Eris?

Walker the way I see it, weird shit happens around Eris. Weird shit happens around a lot of people, its just more noticeable around her.

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#33001 - 01/11/05 04:43 PM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Eris Offline
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Registered: 06/04/04
God forbid, Mr. Self Righteous would likely tear out his node with his bare hands before it even could possibly harm a kitten.

What it comes down to is you don't know me Jager and with the attitude you spout like geysers from your ego mean you are likely never going to. But I am sure that is fine with you since mirrors are easy to come by and that is all you really need.
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#33002 - 01/11/05 07:22 PM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Jager Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Loc: Apex, NC.
Quote:
Originally posted by Eris:
God forbid, Mr. Self Righteous would likely tear out his node with his bare hands before it even could possibly harm a kitten.
Oh, come on. Tarot's not so bad he deserves that kind of title, though he does love kittens.

Quote:
Originally posted by Eris:
What it comes down to is you don't know me Jager and with the attitude you spout like geysers from your ego mean you are likely never going to.
Does this mean you are going to actively avoid me? If so, thank you. I appreciate your concern.

Quote:
Originally posted by Eris:
But I am sure that is fine with you since mirrors are easy to come by and that is all you really need.
Oh, please. I would never let anyone see me ... even me. If I let that happen, then I might get to know who I am. I will kill anyone one who really KNOWS me ... and that would really hurt, ya know?
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#33003 - 01/11/05 07:28 PM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Jager Offline
Nova

Registered: 01/20/01
Loc: Apex, NC.
Quote:
Originally posted by Tarot:
Jager ... somehow I'm confident that your eruptions have been seen as "really bad" for someone. Probably a lot of someones over a lot of time. You're not really going to take responsibility for that are you?
Yes, and through deliberate action on my part resulting in some ill will still directed my way. Thing is, most of them really don't care whether my actions were deliberate, accidental, or what. I brought harm to them and they wanted some payback.
Those kind of people aren't going to care for Eris' reasoning either. They will care about the impact on them.
Life's unfair like that at times, and I'm not the only Meany Head out there.

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Originally posted by Tarot:
Why should Eris?
Yeah, why should she?
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#33004 - 01/12/05 06:22 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
billy Horrorshow Offline
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Registered: 10/08/04
Loc: San Diego
It's threads like this that make me such a fucking slow learner when it comes to quantum-what-not. I mean, look at my little quirks...pointy teeth and a slight allergy to sunlight. You have no idea how often I eat out in the public spotlight just to ease the taint-nuts' fears that I need to drink blood to survive.
Bah, I say. Bah.
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#33005 - 01/12/05 08:58 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Tarot Offline
Nova

Registered: 10/29/04
Loc: Havana
That might be a problem Billy. You spend your on-camera time scaring the shizznits out of people but your off-camera time trying to ease their concerns. Maybe you should try something different.

Go out dining at night drinking huge quantities of red wine while eyeing the crowd with that detached smile you used as the psycho janitor in Academy Of Young Girls Redeemed III. Go to church and throw yourself on the floor in a mock fit after they do the cracker / transubstantiation thing. In your next interview when they ask about religious zealots, tell them Michealites are wonderful but you really adore their children then lick your lips and smile. Insist on being called Master (not to be confused with The Master (tm) hanging out with the QNA) by your staff. The next time reporters ask you about your staff, insist there is no truth to the rumors that your last assistant was found dead in the mountains with a look of ecstasy on her face. The more confused the reporters are, the more insistant you should be about this.

Do this for a while and see if it works better. Even if someone tries to kill, at least you'll have tried.

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#33006 - 01/12/05 09:15 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
billy Horrorshow Offline
Nova

Registered: 10/08/04
Loc: San Diego
Actually I have no problem playing up the zombie vamp thing....in fact it's fun. And what do you mean Off-camera time? Who has that these days?

This reminds me of a gift I got from Rodney and the SuperImpose boys...I'm not one for fancy hi-tech but I melted for this. I've got a mirror I don't show up in. Something to do with digital fiberoptic display/digital real time editing or some such crap...but it's one of the great subtle things I've got in the foyer.

PS> There's a fine line between being a celebrity monster and being a celebrity Monster Terat. N!TV has some fairly strick policies to separate the two.
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#33007 - 01/12/05 09:21 AM Re: "Jager is a jackass overdramatic meany head!"
Tarot Offline
Nova

Registered: 10/29/04
Loc: Havana
I just think you should try being a monster celebrity for a while and see if that works better that eating in public to ease the taint nut fears. If nothing else it will give you the opportunity to speak with an exotic Eastern European accent.

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