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#33647 - 01/30/05 02:32 PM
Re: What are or is the thing(s) the teragen stand for?
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Xeno:Similarly, self-reflection and pursuit of potential is good (it is strongly hoped), and teragen must have some insight into the matter. But this ideal can stand on its own, can it not? I suspect the key words there are "good" and "potential". We all have the potential for good. We all have the potential for evil. If you don't care which way you go (and I think the Tergen doesn't), then down is a lot easier than up.
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#33651 - 01/31/05 10:13 AM
Re: What are or is the thing(s) the teragen stand for?
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Ashnod:In what context are you defining "down" and "up?" By what measuring stick is "good" and "evil" defined? Exactly. Simon 'Kid Quantum' Whitechapel: Isn't that rather limited thinking Mr. Smith? I mean really, to most of us "Down" is just as easy as "Up," even from an ethical stand point, isn't it? Unfortunately, that depends on the social structure. During World War 2, the guards at the death camps were, for the most, part ordinary people, who did horrible things, and after the war went back to being perfectly ordinary people. This type of experience has been born out other times. Take two groups of actors, make one set the prisoners, the other set the guards, give the “guards” unlimited authority over the “prisoners” and tell them that they are on their own for setting policy and “ethical treatment”. Within a few weeks the guards are torturing the prisoners. If the guards are male and the prisoners female then there will be sexual issues/problems. Granted, not everyone turns into a sadist and starts abusing people, but most do. Real prison guards get special training to prevent this sort of thing. Real prisons (hopefully) have protocols set up because of this issue. As near as I can tell, the Teragen has set up something similar with it’s “there is no ethics but what you set and our people will shield you from any consequences”.
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#33652 - 01/31/05 10:15 AM
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Registered: 10/08/04
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:semantic dance, semantic dance: I love you guys only because you keep it so god-damn formal. Originally posted by Preston: Not a single terat has responded to this topic? Odd. From the way she was posting about it, I thought Endeavor was the resident Terat speaking out. Of course this struck me as...odd.
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#33655 - 01/31/05 07:23 PM
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Registered: 05/25/02
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Originally posted by billy Horrorshow: :semantic dance, semantic dance:
I love you guys only because you keep it so god-damn formal. Originally posted by Preston: Not a single terat has responded to this topic? Odd. From the way she was posting about it, I thought Endeavor was the resident Terat speaking out. Of course this struck me as...odd. Billy, my understanding of Teras I feel still fits with my view of the world. To explain how would take several volumes of material. Material I think only a few would be interested in. Not the general population. Simply put, there are very few Novas that are Terats that I call friend. The rest are independent thinkers, yes, but not Terat. Am I one? No. I cannot claim to be a Terat. One does not claim to be one. You either are, or not. It's not a club, or a lifestyle. Of course, my spin on the issue may turn some heads, but my interpretation of Teras is in my opinion, sound. I feel that responsibility to yourself and to Novakind is part and parcel with Teras. As is minding yourself when dealing with Humans. One must try to write out as much as possible the Human quotient of a Nova's dealings with Humans. Such interactions create more trouble than it's worth. Just do your job, get it done, and get the hell out of there before anyone without a node starts realising they had somone with quite alot of power behind them doing their thing next to them. I haven't taken that bit of wisdom to heart unfortunately, hence the massive fanclub I got, but at the very least, my occasional news letters attempt to enlighten those that follow my every move. Perhaps they wish to learn from me, not ogle at my frame while I enjoy a swim in the summertime. Then again... it may be both. And Tarot, Pink is only a color. Although it is asthetically pleasing to many a species senses. It represents Spring, Hope, Love, Peace, and Life itself. Perfect for a creator and builder like me, is it not? What, you'd rather me walk around in all black and look all menacing and powerful? I could do that, but it'd be against my character. Fear is a block against understanding. I present myself in a way that breaks all walls.
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#33659 - 02/01/05 12:06 PM
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Nova
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Sakurako Endeavor Hino: Why do people fear Teras? …But, I believe. I believe in my potential. I believe in my future. And I can believe I can do it without sacrificing my conscience. I can’t. As baselines, we are taught to believe that fulfilling our potential is a good thing. Money, education, accomplishments, children, etc. I don’t think that’s what Teras is about. Endeavor, this is my quantum potential. Opnet Link to Troll\'s misdeeds. My understanding of Teras is I’m supposed to embrace it. That it is my baseline upbringing that makes me shy away from it. Maybe. But the fact remains, I don’t want to embrace my potential. So, could you fulfill your potential without sacrificing your conscience? Yes, you probably could. I think you’d do well as a prison guard as well. I don’t have a problem with you fulfilling your potential. The real question is, the question I think Teras fails on, how do you feel about me fulfilling mine?
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#33660 - 02/01/05 12:33 PM
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Registered: 10/29/04
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I don't particularly care which religions any of you choose to embrace. Not that it shouldn't be a vital concern to you, I'm just not fascinated by your particular choices. With that out of the way; what the hell are you talking about Troll? What does a bully fit have to do with fulfilling your potential. Its not as if rage is a natural state. Color is what you make of it, Sakurako. I could tell you a dozen stories about the meanings of different colors, how what they represented changed through the ages and why. So yeah, black might be a suitable color choice depending on the place and mood. You do attend formal functions, right? Embassy parties, formal balls, State dinners and whatnot? You looking menacing? You looking menacing? Just not quite getting the image... 
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#33662 - 02/01/05 02:25 PM
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Nova
Registered: 04/25/04
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Originally posted by David 'Dr. Troll' Smith: Tarot:Its not as if rage is a natural state. It is for me. Worse, it's pretty much the default state when I'm green. No wonder you're such a tight ass. You've got that whole "I'm secretly a monster and must do everything to keep in check" guilt trip mojo thing going. Sucks to be you. Stop spoiling life for the rest of us, you fucktard.
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#33666 - 02/02/05 12:18 AM
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Nova
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Originally posted by David 'Dr. Troll' Smith: Worse, it's pretty much the default state when I'm green. Why? No, really, I want to know why it is that you go road rage on the world the moment you tap a little juice. Totem admits to having nearly zero impulse control everyday of his life but managed to hang out in Tokyo for a week without killing anyone. If you're tripping Mite rage every chance you get than maybe you should be looking at what it is that you're raging about. Just me feeling philosophic tonight.
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#33669 - 02/02/05 09:57 AM
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Nova
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Sakurako Endeavor Hino:Potential is the unused latent creativity and skill a person has that is yet to be tapped.
Threat is the directly applied entropic force a person can exert on a target. Through brute or subtle means. True for baselines, but we are talking about Quantum potential. My quantum gifts have nothing to do with art etc. By nova standards, my quantum gifts make me a second or third rate doctor/researcher… or a first rate engine of destruction. My natural path is very obvious and clearly defined. I choose not to take it. Tarot: Anger is to rage as a glass of water is to the Pacific Ocean. That's why I'm having a problem with this. There still has to be a reason even if it goes all the way back to eruption. There has to be a reason he wanted to be a mitoid. Quick tempered and even violent is one thing but always and continually raging? During eruption I chose to identify with a comic character who has problems. Mostly the choice was a good one, it cleaned up my lungs, gave me several very nice skill sets, and the nova physic and metabolism are good. Even being able to turn green is mostly a good thing. But when green, my natural response to most situations is violence and anger. For someone with elevated intelligence, that’s unfortunate, but controllable. Where it really gets dangerous is when you throw clones into the mix. Clones are really useful, but every clone drastically diminishes my intelligence, and thus my judgment. Rage is uncontrollable anger without judgment. Most people get fits of rage when their anger grows beyond their judgment. But that equation also works by leaving the anger constant but lowering judgment. I go green, create a few clones, lose enough judgment that I create more, and boom. We level the city, or leave a big mess for T2M to stop. We have been talking about potential. Here is another, I fit the profile for novas who have multiple personality disorder. My two forms already think very differently… enough so that if I ever start racking up aberrations, it isn’t tough to see which way I’ll go. But that’s me. I’ve made my decisions, I’ll live with them. We were talking about the Teras. So, how many people like me do you think are out there, and how many are following Teras? Still think Teras is a “good” or "neutral" thing?
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