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#34196 - 02/07/05 07:36 PM
Re: Can Taint Be Channeled/Cured?
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Nova
Registered: 09/08/03
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Originally posted by Neil Preston:
Regan, are you looking for a cure for taint, or the resulting aberrations, or both? The mood swings. They're driving me nuts. I've accepted aberrations as part of life for a nova, but this one is detrimental to me and others. Originally posted by Lemmy Chillmeister:
So, Saimhe asks a question and two days later we got talk about dorming from the self-hating ass-munch mother-fucker, rumors from Pink Ranger, Billy Scaryfucks little pearls of wisdom that actually make coming here worthwhile, a snootful of crazy from J. Dahmer, some comic book geek talk and some down in the mouth straight talk from my tatooed bro and ain't no one got a straight answer yet.
Saimhe sweetie, I got it straight for you.
Yes and no.
Sorry babe, but it's like the Dao, you're asking for the written Dao and the written Dao ain't the true Dao. You gotta experience.
You ready to walk that path? The word human really doesn't apply to me anymore, Lemmy. I'm at loose ends, wedding and all, and I need something to focus my mind on. At the basic level, I still need to learn. If you and Slattern are willing to talk, I'm willing to listen. I'm open-minded these days.
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#34211 - 02/08/05 08:18 AM
Re: Can Taint Be Channeled/Cured?
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Nova
Registered: 04/12/04
Posts: 1170
Loc: Chicago
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Vanguard: I think that was the most intelligent and comprehendable thing you've ever posted. Nice.
Dr. Troll:
Like she said, going too fast too hard. However, "too fast" and "too hard" seem to vary from nova to nova and even from task to task.
Some things are easy and "obvious" for a particular nova but near impossible for another. The only general rule of thumb I've seen is that learning while under stress doesn't seem to be a good idea.
That ties in very nicely with my theory about how we develop our abilities. When we try to do something new, our node does LOTS of random things, and feeds the results back to our subconscious. When it does something we want, it just repeats that. More often than not, our powers have odd side effects (sparkles, glows, noises) that our subconscious just doesn't care about so long as we get the job done. I think taint is kind of like that.
Proteus: I try not to call them mutations, even though it's a similar idea. Mutation implies a difference in genetics, and that only rarely occurrs. Most of the time, aberration is caused by the node, not a biological expression.
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#34212 - 02/08/05 09:28 AM
Re: Can Taint Be Channeled/Cured?
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Nova
Registered: 12/09/02
Posts: 1457
Loc: John Hopkins Medical Center
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Interesting theory, Alchemist. Kind of a Node-shotgun approach to quantum functionality.
I would like to hear your thoughts on how taint can deposit itself in other tissues, though. You would think if the node was the sole source of developing taint/aberrations, that more aberrations would manifest themselves mentally, which doesn't seem to be the case.
Could the node act as a junction between your biological format and your quantum impression? If so, does that mean your node experiments with your quantum impression before you actually develop the quantum expression? And, if so, how often does it do this?
Biological format - our meat-bodies and their normal functioning processes.
Quantum Impression - also called our aura.
Another of my pet theories is that we create, or reinforce these auras when we erupt, and they act as a barrier/seive between our novas-selves and the greater quantum universe, like a glove or full-body condom.
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#34213 - 02/08/05 09:39 AM
Re: Can Taint Be Channeled/Cured?
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Nova
Registered: 06/11/02
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Loc: New York
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Proteus: There really needs to be crash course at the Rashoud clinic that includes all this stuff. I thought everyone knew that increasing your powers quickly meant you were risking getting MEGA-Tainted.
There is but…
How much exposure you got depends on where you went, when you went, and how long you stayed. There’s also the whole ”I as a researcher truly believe this but can’t quite prove it…” issue.
Proteus: We all say Aberrations and Taint but how come we don't ever call them Mutations?
Because they go away if you dorm down far enough. They are reflections and/or corruptions of our power, and appear to be unique to us.
Neil Preston: Interesting theory, Alchemist. Kind of a Node-shotgun approach to quantum functionality.
Yes, very interesting.
Neil Preston: I would like to hear your thoughts on how taint can deposit itself in other tissues, though. You would think if the node was the sole source of developing taint/aberrations, that more aberrations would manifest themselves mentally, which doesn't seem to be the case.
I suspect for the most part taint doesn’t deposit itself in other tissues. A woman’s skin changes color, or whatever. When she dorms down she loses these changes. If the taint and the actual aberration were in other tissues, then they’d stay. Aberrations appear to be a manifestation of our power, and our power is our node.
Obviously there can be exceptions, but this does appear to be the general rule.
Neil Preston: Another of my pet theories is that we create, or reinforce these auras when we erupt, and they act as a barrier/seive between our novas-selves and the greater quantum universe, like a glove or full-body condom.
Hmm.
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#34217 - 02/08/05 10:30 AM
Re: Can Taint Be Channeled/Cured?
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Nova
Registered: 04/12/04
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Loc: Chicago
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Originally posted by Neil Preston:
how taint can deposit itself in other tissues, though.
It's my opinion that taint is like cancer, in that it has as many causes as it has forms. A nova with a glowing aura can be leaking quantum energy slowly (resulting in light), bioluminescing, bending ambient light into a new color, etc., etc. Given a specific nova and time to study them, I might be able to explain why their tissues have changed in a specific way. But in my view there are many ways it might happen.
You would think if the node was the sole source of developing taint/aberrations, that more aberrations would manifest themselves mentally, which doesn't seem to be the case.
I don't follow your logic on this. Why would mental instability follow from quantum-level experimentation of the node?
Could the node act as a junction between your biological format and your quantum impression? If so, does that mean your node experiments with your quantum impression before you actually develop the quantum expression? And, if so, how often does it do this?
Biological format - our meat-bodies and their normal functioning processes.
Quantum Impression - also called our aura.
Thus far, I haven't seperated these things in my mind. Our bodies are intrinsic parts of our Quantum Impression, with their function at both the macro and micro level being part of that impression. I believe that our node (moreso even than our brain) percieves our Quantum Impression differently than the rest of the world. This is why our own quantum abilities cannot harm us, and partially why we can learn to 'bond' with other objects so that they are not harmed by our abilities.
Another of my pet theories is that we create, or reinforce these auras when we erupt, and they act as a barrier/seive between our novas-selves and the greater quantum universe, like a glove or full-body condom.
That is an excellent observation.
Dr. Troll: Obviously there can be exceptions, but this does appear to be the general rule.I think the exception is more common than the rule as far as novas are concerned. For virtually everything.
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#34219 - 02/08/05 12:57 PM
Re: Can Taint Be Channeled/Cured?
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Baseline
Registered: 02/08/05
Posts: 35
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Originally posted by Neil Preston:
I have seen one case of someone dorming down and losing one, but keeping their other aberrations. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Can I raise my hand? Dormancy stopped working for me a few years ago, making it more important whose company I keep. Of course this is fairly common knowledge, so there's really no shame in it, is there? I'll also second the failure of modern medicine to treat Taint-related psychological glitches. Whenever I've run across them I do my best to let them pass through my system as quickly as possible. I could rant on a bit since I may have more personal experience with different Aberrations than most of you but I'm no scientist, so I'll as Cody suggested, and keep quiet when I don't have anything scientifically legitimate to say. I WILL say that knowing and understanding a Nova's aberrations is a major step towards understanding the Nova him/herself.
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#34224 - 02/09/05 12:54 AM
Re: Can Taint Be Channeled/Cured?
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Baseline
Registered: 02/08/05
Posts: 35
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Originally posted by Regan 'Saimhe' McLachlan:
It wasn't the telepathy so much as I was trying to make it do something it wasn't meant to do - channel the emotional side-effects of Taint from another mind through myself. So did it work? Taint and power offerings aside, was there any "taint relief" for the other person involved, albeit temporary or permanent? You're not the first to do this, nor the first to gain taint through the process. It's an interesting route of quantum development; looking for a way to absorb other's taint is a noble and almost natural pursuit for those in our society. btw Regan, I take it you went through a name change after this unpleasant Utopia affair...but for some reason I don't see Saimhe showing up on my radar. Just a tangent. My initial question is really the drive of this post.
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