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#71650 - 09/12/04 05:49 PM
Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
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Nova
Registered: 11/17/02
Loc: Nowhere
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Originally posted by Totem: Is this just prep for a Halloween party this year or something? WTF is going on!? I am sure that all of the Civic-Minded Six, over here, are quite serious, for their own reasons. No chicanery involved, so far as I know. Originally posted by Endeavor: And Ronin, you realize this is turning more and more into a drama. If you pull such a stunt, you'd realize we'd be facing ourselves at some point? In all likelihood, yes. You know I wouldn't fight you. You might not have that option, darling. This is starting to turn more complex than initially calculated. Exactly. Originally posted by Interceptor: In all seriousness I'm assuming Ronin is being sarcastic here, at least I hope he is. I place a lot of value in his experience, I definitely do not want to be opposing him.
Quite serious, actually, Interceptor. I wouldn't worry about big, bad me, though. After all, you've got Jager, Ashnod and Apep -- excuse me, 'Continuum Girl and Mafdet' -- on your side. So far, the Brotherhood of Evil Novas is comprised of just Ian and myself. What fun is roleplaying unless you have opposition? That is what this is, isn't it? Roleplaying? Dress-up? I'm just making your game more interesting.
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#71661 - 09/12/04 11:23 PM
Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
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Nova
Registered: 07/13/04
Loc: New York, NY
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Never been a super-villain before...
Tell you what, Ronin. You don't ask me to do anything I don't want to and don't go doing a single fucking thing that I'd feel compelled to smack the anime-loving shit out of you for, and I'm in.
Not because I like you or want to hurt anybody, of course. But this little team-up is fucking moronic, and it looks like you and Ian (you actually going for this, you slug?) are going to need all the help you can get.
Besides, I never pass up an opportunity to show up your little girlfriend for the Helen-Keller-of-Technology that she is.
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#71667 - 09/13/04 02:09 AM
Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
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Nova
Registered: 11/17/02
Loc: Nowhere
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Originally posted by Endeavor: You know what then? I want no part of it. Splendid. One down. Originally posted by Totem: Because people want to play hero you have to play villian? Where is the harm of them not being opposed and for that matter why do you feel the need to be the one to do so? Because I support nova independence and do not agree with the idea that novas are the caretakers and benefactors of humanity, something that such a group would seek to not just undermine, but drag forth to a whole new level. Villains aren't necessarily evil, Totem. They just oppose the heroes. And in this case, I do. I'm sorry to do this, Interceptor, since until you dragged so many people into this issue it was banal enough to pass under my radar, but mark my words; If you seek to prove that you can protect baseline humanity, I will show you how wrong you are.
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#71669 - 09/13/04 03:03 AM
Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
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Nova
Registered: 11/17/02
Loc: Nowhere
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Originally posted by Totem: I just hope they are not very serious Ronin. Otherwise you will be a grease smear on the side of the Sears Tower... Not all battles are fought with teeth and claws and bolts of plasma, Totem. Some are more subtle, and the stakes prospectively more painful than death on the side of a building. What is it with you and your recent "I want ronin dead" kick, anyway? Have I really wounded your pride so much that you want to kill me? Are you so afraid of me that you want me removed as a threat? Totem, if I wanted a fight, we'd fight. But I don't want you dead, not in the least. For fuck's sake, though, grow up.
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#71674 - 09/13/04 04:13 AM
Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
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Nova
Registered: 11/17/02
Loc: Nowhere
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Still whining, Totem. It's cleverly disguised, but it's still just more of the same.
Your gods lost because your people lost. Do you know why your people lost? Because they were outgunned, outnumbered and outclassed. That sucks when you're on the receiving end of it, but that's the way it went down, and that's the way it's been going down since time immemorial. The conquered suffer under the bootheel of the conqueror. History is written by the winners. And the victorious do not have to justify their victory to those they have defeated.
Which brings us to you and me. You have a few options here, Totem. You can shut your gob and deal with the fact that you're buffaloed, and maybe someday the situation will reverse and you can hold it over me. You could fight and maybe win or maybe die, and one of us goes away for good. I'd like that to not happen. You could seethe and be angry at me and snipe at me like a petulant child until the Horsemen come. Or you could step up and try to talk to me without an attack. I will try my best to extend the same courtesy to you, as much as I freely admit you frustrate and sometimes anger me.
That's an analogy of integration, which is what the Vikings did to my people when they conquered them, and what the Colonists should have done to your people when they conquered them. You chide me and call me names because I've lived longer and experienced more than you, and am stronger than you for it. If you expect me to feel guilty or wrong because of that, you are sorely mistaken.
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#71677 - 09/13/04 07:24 AM
Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
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Nova
Registered: 01/20/01
Loc: Apex, NC.
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And we got way over here how?
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Wouldn't it be nice to ask the people who are joining Interceptor's vision what they might be about, instead of making assumptions?
Wouldn't it be nice to think that someone could ask for a little help with a project, and actually get it?
Wouldn't it be nice of novas could fake enough maturity to either say, "Cool idea", "Interesting, but its not for me", or "I don't think this is a good idea" ... instead of making this a pissing contest, or a joke.
To me, this isn't about who can plant who, or show up who, or smack-whatever. Someone said, "Can anyone help me with this?" and a few people said, "Okay" for whatever reason.
Ask them why. If you oppose Interceptor's plan, give some concrete reasons for why it is a bad idea.
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