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#71639 - 09/12/04 01:08 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Apep Offline
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Registered: 06/01/01
Posts: 533
Loc: Ombos
Can you find a place for me? I understand that I am a wanted criminal and all, but the fact of the matter is that I do indeed spend a good amount of time in the region and am intersted in taking part.

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#71640 - 09/12/04 01:13 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
ronin Offline
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Registered: 11/17/02
Posts: 692
Loc: Nowhere
Wonderful. Jager, then Ashnod, now Apep joins the merry crew. Clearly, the League of Very Very Good Midwestern Novas is the most charitably accepting nova organization on earth.

I wonder what Interceptor's masters will have to say when Charr and Fenrir want to join.
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#71641 - 09/12/04 01:38 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Ian 'Very Bad' Blakely Offline
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Registered: 05/22/04
Posts: 121
Loc: Pretoria, South Africa
Quote:
Originally posted by ronin:

If people like Ashnod and Jager can dress up and play superhero, maybe I can dress up and play supervillain.
Maybe...maybe I could even get a whole supervillain team.
Shall I send you my price list?
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#71642 - 09/12/04 01:49 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
ronin Offline
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Registered: 11/17/02
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What? You mean you wouldn't do it pro-bono just to test your awesome might against older novas like Jager and Ashnod? You wouldn't join an opposing force smaller in number and inferior in power just to see if you could pull it off?

You know, Ian, you make me sick. That kind of disgusting, self-serving, mercenary attitude is just the sort of thing we look for here in the League of Very, Very Naughty Midwestern Novas. Consider yourself hired.

Is there anything you'd like other than cash, or shall I start off our reign of terror by robbing a prominent bank in Utah to pay you?
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#71643 - 09/12/04 02:49 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Interceptor Offline
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Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 255
You stay in your tree club house Ronin, and we'll stay in ours, OK? wink
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#71644 - 09/12/04 02:50 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Interceptor Offline
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Registered: 06/07/04
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I'm not sure Mafdet, I can see what they say about you. Let me send you a PM and give you the details, OK?
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#71645 - 09/12/04 03:26 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Wakinyan Offline
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Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 3214
We have now taken a turn for the surreal. eek
Is this just prep for a Halloween party this year or something? WTF is going on!?

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#71646 - 09/12/04 04:24 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
(2018) Endeavor Offline
Nova

Registered: 05/25/02
Posts: 5734
Loc: Tokyo
Erm, Interceptor... some help here?

And Ronin, you realize this is turning more and more into a drama. If you pull such a stunt, you'd realize we'd be facing ourselves at some point?

You know I wouldn't fight you.

This is starting to turn more complex than initially calculated.

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#71647 - 09/12/04 04:32 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Interceptor Offline
Nova

Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 255
In all seriousness I'm assuming Ronin is being sarcastic here, at least I hope he is. I place a lot of value in his experience, I definitely do not want to be opposing him.
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#71648 - 09/12/04 05:19 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Wakinyan Offline
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Registered: 01/24/04
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If not maybe you could do us all a favor and lock him in a mirror then cast it into space.

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#71649 - 09/12/04 05:47 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Interceptor Offline
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Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 255
We'll call that Option B.
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#71650 - 09/12/04 05:49 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
ronin Offline
Nova

Registered: 11/17/02
Posts: 692
Loc: Nowhere
Quote:
Originally posted by Totem:
Is this just prep for a Halloween party this year or something? WTF is going on!?
I am sure that all of the Civic-Minded Six, over here, are quite serious, for their own reasons. No chicanery involved, so far as I know.

Quote:
Originally posted by Endeavor:
And Ronin, you realize this is turning more and more into a drama. If you pull such a stunt, you'd realize we'd be facing ourselves at some point?
In all likelihood, yes.

Quote:
You know I wouldn't fight you.
You might not have that option, darling.

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This is starting to turn more complex than initially calculated.
Exactly.

Quote:
Originally posted by Interceptor:
In all seriousness I'm assuming Ronin is being sarcastic here, at least I hope he is. I place a lot of value in his experience, I definitely do not want to be opposing him.
Quite serious, actually, Interceptor.

I wouldn't worry about big, bad me, though. After all, you've got Jager, Ashnod and Apep -- excuse me, 'Continuum Girl and Mafdet' -- on your side. So far, the Brotherhood of Evil Novas is comprised of just Ian and myself.

What fun is roleplaying unless you have opposition? That is what this is, isn't it? Roleplaying? Dress-up?

I'm just making your game more interesting.
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#71651 - 09/12/04 06:17 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Interceptor Offline
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Registered: 06/07/04
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I don't know Ronin, it just seems kind of silly for you wake up one day, read an Opnet forum and say "Hey! I think I'll become a supervillain!". Maybe the reverse might be true for me, except that there is some good in what we intend to be doing with this.
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#71652 - 09/12/04 06:34 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Tangent Offline
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Registered: 11/03/03
Posts: 111
Loc: Where do you want to go today.
Interceptor if you can work out a plan to where the local restaurants will feed us for free I would be interested. There is a little deli over by Mckinley Park that I enjoy eating at.
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#71653 - 09/12/04 06:50 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Interceptor Offline
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Registered: 06/07/04
Posts: 255
Well I can't say for certain as not all the details have been worked out, but endorsements are a possibility.

BTW, what deli is that? Maybe I've been there too.
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#71654 - 09/12/04 07:09 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Tangent Offline
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Registered: 11/03/03
Posts: 111
Loc: Where do you want to go today.
Miceli's Deli, their lunch specials are great. Nothing like having lunch in the park on a nice afternoon to let you appreciate things.
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#71655 - 09/12/04 07:36 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Jager Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Posts: 4733
Loc: Apex, NC.
Me, I have my own reasons for bringing Interceptor's vision to life.

Sometimes, we need to dream.

Sometimes, we need to make dreams real.
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#71656 - 09/12/04 08:28 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Ghostwriter Offline
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Registered: 09/08/03
Posts: 1552
Either I've had one too many pina coladas recently or I'm completely imagining this...

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#71657 - 09/12/04 08:30 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Wakinyan Offline
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Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 3214
Don't worry. You'll wake up with Patrick Duffy in your shower very soon and realize this was all a dream.... :p

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#71658 - 09/12/04 08:34 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Singularity Offline
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Registered: 05/06/04
Posts: 1531
Loc: Unknown
That is it, no more sugar loaded snacks before going to bed for me. confused
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#71659 - 09/12/04 11:09 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
(2018) Endeavor Offline
Nova

Registered: 05/25/02
Posts: 5734
Loc: Tokyo
Ronin, to me this isn't a game.

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#71660 - 09/12/04 11:18 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
ronin Offline
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Registered: 11/17/02
Posts: 692
Loc: Nowhere
And I love you, darling, but whether you think it's a game or not, whether it was or not when you expressed your interest in it (it is my opinion that the project was noble enough at the time), it has become a game, and I have no intention of allowing it to be played unopposed.
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#71661 - 09/12/04 11:23 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Machina Offline
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Registered: 07/13/04
Posts: 573
Loc: New York, NY
Never been a super-villain before...

Tell you what, Ronin. You don't ask me to do anything I don't want to and don't go doing a single fucking thing that I'd feel compelled to smack the anime-loving shit out of you for, and I'm in.

Not because I like you or want to hurt anybody, of course. But this little team-up is fucking moronic, and it looks like you and Ian (you actually going for this, you slug?) are going to need all the help you can get.

Besides, I never pass up an opportunity to show up your little girlfriend for the Helen-Keller-of-Technology that she is.
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#71662 - 09/12/04 11:27 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
(2018) Endeavor Offline
Nova

Registered: 05/25/02
Posts: 5734
Loc: Tokyo
You know what then? I want no part of it.

If you children are just going to one-up yourselves, I'm not going to babysit. Good bye.

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#71663 - 09/12/04 11:29 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Wakinyan Offline
Nova

Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 3214
Quote:
Originally posted by ronin:
I have no intention of allowing it to be played unopposed.
Sorry I must be missing something here. Because people want to play hero you have to play villian? Where is the harm of them not being opposed and for that matter why do you feel the need to be the one to do so?

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#71664 - 09/12/04 11:37 PM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
(2018) Endeavor Offline
Nova

Registered: 05/25/02
Posts: 5734
Loc: Tokyo
Quite frankly, this whole thing is becoming childish and there's too many egos in the way.

This thing is going to crash and burn FAST.

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#71665 - 09/13/04 12:48 AM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Access Offline
Nova

Registered: 08/04/04
Posts: 274
Loc: Chicago
I'm not playing hero here. I'm being a good Samaritan in hopes of learning some more about myself and possibly advancing my gifts. I'm not looking for extra situations to be caused just to give us a hard time. If we're going to be covering the midwest area, I'm sure there will be plenty of trouble without the help of this OpNet pissing match. I'm probably going to be the last person to be involved with any sort of combat or physical situation, I was just not created for it. I think your twisted sort of logic isn't going to help advance anything either. As long as problems are going to be caused for baselines, by novas, they're are going to try and enforce their laws and regulations upon us. We won't get anywhere until they can trust us.
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#71666 - 09/13/04 01:08 AM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
BlackStar Offline
Nova

Registered: 02/16/04
Posts: 196
Loc: Chicago
Well, if miss Hino is not going to oppose her boy-friend. Which I think is comprehensible. Then I am requesting the opportunity to be a part of the group.

I now I donīt even live in your country. But when you can be in any part of the world instantaneously thatīs not a big problem.

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#71667 - 09/13/04 02:09 AM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
ronin Offline
Nova

Registered: 11/17/02
Posts: 692
Loc: Nowhere
Quote:
Originally posted by Endeavor:
You know what then? I want no part of it.
Splendid. One down.

Quote:
Originally posted by Totem:
Because people want to play hero you have to play villian? Where is the harm of them not being opposed and for that matter why do you feel the need to be the one to do so?
Because I support nova independence and do not agree with the idea that novas are the caretakers and benefactors of humanity, something that such a group would seek to not just undermine, but drag forth to a whole new level.
Villains aren't necessarily evil, Totem. They just oppose the heroes. And in this case, I do.

I'm sorry to do this, Interceptor, since until you dragged so many people into this issue it was banal enough to pass under my radar, but mark my words;
If you seek to prove that you can protect baseline humanity, I will show you how wrong you are.
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#71668 - 09/13/04 02:29 AM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Wakinyan Offline
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Registered: 01/24/04
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I just hope they are not very serious Ronin. Otherwise you will be a grease smear on the side of the Sears Tower..

No wait come to think of it GO FOR IT! Just a shame Endeavor is gonna need Black instead of Pink for awhile.

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#71669 - 09/13/04 03:03 AM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
ronin Offline
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Registered: 11/17/02
Posts: 692
Loc: Nowhere
Quote:
Originally posted by Totem:
I just hope they are not very serious Ronin. Otherwise you will be a grease smear on the side of the Sears Tower...
Not all battles are fought with teeth and claws and bolts of plasma, Totem. Some are more subtle, and the stakes prospectively more painful than death on the side of a building.

What is it with you and your recent "I want ronin dead" kick, anyway? Have I really wounded your pride so much that you want to kill me? Are you so afraid of me that you want me removed as a threat?
Totem, if I wanted a fight, we'd fight. But I don't want you dead, not in the least. For fuck's sake, though, grow up.
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#71670 - 09/13/04 03:30 AM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
(2018) Endeavor Offline
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Registered: 05/25/02
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Loc: Tokyo
I would be wearing black. Not for mourning, but for hunting. You do such a thing, Totem, and I swear, I will not guarantee your safety.

You got that?

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#71671 - 09/13/04 03:36 AM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Samuel Davison Offline
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Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 567
Loc: Someplace, Somewhere, Somewhen
Is it just me, or did Ronin declare war on baselines a few posts ago?

I'm away a couple weeks about, and now things are getting THIS HOT?

Ho boy, business is picking up.
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#71672 - 09/13/04 03:39 AM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
ronin Offline
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Registered: 11/17/02
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Loc: Nowhere
Quote:
Originally posted by DigiGeist:
Is it just me, or did Ronin declare war on baselines a few posts ago?
Not one bit, good sir.

There are more ways to make a point than hurting and killing people.
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#71673 - 09/13/04 03:58 AM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Wakinyan Offline
Nova

Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 3214
Quote:
Originally posted by Endeavor:
I would be wearing black. Not for mourning, but for hunting. You do such a thing, Totem, and I swear, I will not guarantee your safety.

You got that?
Never fear Endeavor it won't be me. I know I don't stand a chance against Ronin anyway. I think of him a lot like the white man's god. All Powerful, Contradictory and Annoying as hell.

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#71674 - 09/13/04 04:13 AM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
ronin Offline
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Still whining, Totem. It's cleverly disguised, but it's still just more of the same.

Your gods lost because your people lost. Do you know why your people lost? Because they were outgunned, outnumbered and outclassed. That sucks when you're on the receiving end of it, but that's the way it went down, and that's the way it's been going down since time immemorial. The conquered suffer under the bootheel of the conqueror. History is written by the winners. And the victorious do not have to justify their victory to those they have defeated.

Which brings us to you and me. You have a few options here, Totem. You can shut your gob and deal with the fact that you're buffaloed, and maybe someday the situation will reverse and you can hold it over me. You could fight and maybe win or maybe die, and one of us goes away for good. I'd like that to not happen. You could seethe and be angry at me and snipe at me like a petulant child until the Horsemen come. Or you could step up and try to talk to me without an attack. I will try my best to extend the same courtesy to you, as much as I freely admit you frustrate and sometimes anger me.

That's an analogy of integration, which is what the Vikings did to my people when they conquered them, and what the Colonists should have done to your people when they conquered them.
You chide me and call me names because I've lived longer and experienced more than you, and am stronger than you for it. If you expect me to feel guilty or wrong because of that, you are sorely mistaken.
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#71675 - 09/13/04 04:22 AM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Wakinyan Offline
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Alright then if you want to take it to that level then fine. It will be either you or I then. I am not talking anymore. You and Charr buzz like insects and you don't expect to be swatted. I will do my best to kill you then just find me and we will finish this. However Endeavor wants to deal with it afterward is her business regardless of who lives or dies.

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#71676 - 09/13/04 04:52 AM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Ghostwriter Offline
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Registered: 09/08/03
Posts: 1552
Jesus Christ...

I don't think I want to see what's going to happen next.

ronin, I don't give a crap how old you are, but so help me God you love to dig at people, don't you? Why can't you let well enough alone?

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#71677 - 09/13/04 07:24 AM Re: Any Novas in the Midwest?
Jager Offline
Nova

Registered: 01/20/01
Posts: 4733
Loc: Apex, NC.
And we got way over here how?

... ... ...

Wouldn't it be nice to ask the people who are joining Interceptor's vision what they might be about, instead of making assumptions?

Wouldn't it be nice to think that someone could ask for a little help with a project, and actually get it?

Wouldn't it be nice of novas could fake enough maturity to either say, "Cool idea", "Interesting, but its not for me", or "I don't think this is a good idea" ... instead of making this a pissing contest, or a joke.

To me, this isn't about who can plant who, or show up who, or smack-whatever.
Someone said, "Can anyone help me with this?" and a few people said, "Okay" for whatever reason.

Ask them why.
If you oppose Interceptor's plan, give some concrete reasons for why it is a bad idea.
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