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#87150 - 04/08/07 05:38 PM Are the 2009 rules set in stone?
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The Answer, as far as I can see so far is... Nope. Just really firmly set.


At anytime we as a community can change the rules we set up for this forum. It may piss some people off, it may not. It doesn't matter things can and do change.

I bring this up because I have heard grumbling about how few EXp we get. I was thinking if we really did want more, couldn't we just raise the amount of EXP people get? Would it really be that big of a deal?
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#87155 - 04/08/07 06:22 PM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Catalyst]
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YES! We agreed to a set of rules in the beginning. Those rules must be enforced. That and the fact that it would make it unfair for those who got the lesser experience compared to the ones that get the greater experience.
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#87156 - 04/08/07 06:34 PM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Bellator]
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The question really is, "which rules". And I'd say the exp rate is pretty firmly set.
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#87158 - 04/08/07 06:42 PM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Josh Brickman]
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I would agree. The EXP rules fairly set. However there is no rule that states that a point of bonus EXP cannot be offered from time to time.

How, why, and to whom these rewards could/should go to should be left to the Directors or a unanimous outcry from players.

If this is something you would like to discuss than I would encourage all players to voice their input.
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#87159 - 04/08/07 06:49 PM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Gabriel Law]
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So, since we set the rules up in the past...They can never change... After all ..Wait wait. Those are knee jerk reactions.

Would 2009 change to 2017 if the rules were to change abit?If say two thirds of the players wanted to let people people play nova who erupted 6 months before they join the site. Would that lead to teh cluster fuck that is Waki?
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#87161 - 04/08/07 07:12 PM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Catalyst]
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I have to ask: why are we even going there?
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#87175 - 04/08/07 08:21 PM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Pew Pew Pew]
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Because no doubt Cat feels he isn't advancing quickly enough. Why else does one begin a thread like this?
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#87183 - 04/08/07 09:03 PM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Gabriel Law]
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I say we keep the xp rules as is. Its what we all agreed to and it helps set the mood (in my mind) of how rapidly a nova gains power. Its a good storytelling benchmark (for me, anyway).
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#87218 - 04/09/07 12:34 AM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Ravenshire]
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I wouldn't be opposed to a bonus point of XP or two for a particularly well-composed fic, but that leaves the problem of who adjudicates such a bonus. Also, I am a shameless XP whore, which I have no problem advertising, so this could easily be a reflection of my greed coupled with my masturbatory belief that anything I write would merit such an award.
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#87219 - 04/09/07 12:38 AM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Seph OOC]
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<shrugs>

At least your honest. Well said.

<Gives Seph a Bonus EXP point>
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#87237 - 04/09/07 01:06 AM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Gabriel Law]
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Woo!!

Now if only I'd posted that idea with a character who could benefit from the fucking bonus. Fuck!!

*adds 1XP to personal character sheet, anyway*
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#87330 - 04/09/07 12:21 PM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Seph OOC]
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I honestly think the two months erupting before the character is made..Kind of harsh.

The EXP would be cool, but it is not the end of the world with what we have.
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#87334 - 04/09/07 12:37 PM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Catalyst]
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So what is the point to this Catalyst?

Are you asking for a change or are you just stating opinions? Seriously, if you want to propose a change then just come out with it.

"Are rules etched in stone?"

No. Certainly any one of us propose a change in them, providing we actually made a proposal. So far you have yet to do so.
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#87340 - 04/09/07 12:57 PM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Gabriel Law]
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I know I'm one of the newst players here, but the rules are specifically set up to be changeale if the players desire them to change. The thing is a majority of players have to want them to change. It seems pretty apparent from the reaction so far that a majority will not want the xp rules to change.


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However there is no rule that states that a point of bonus EXP cannot be offered from time to time.

Personally, I don't think this is a good idea because then people will be advancing at unpredictable rates, which I understand is one of the reasons for setting up 2009 in the first place. Plus you will end up with people getting their feelings hurt because their totally awesome post didn't earn bonus xp, and the arbitrators will be getting pestered to give it out.

Now if a majority of players take part in a major roleplay and the directors chose to award bonus xp to everyone that would be ok.

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#87355 - 04/09/07 01:52 PM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Gabriel Law]
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Originally Posted By: Gabriel Law
So what is the point to this Catalyst?

Are you asking for a change or are you just stating opinions? Seriously, if you want to propose a change then just come out with it.

"Are rules etched in stone?"

No. Certainly any one of us propose a change in them, providing we actually made a proposal. So far you have yet to do so.


the whole point was to see if the rules could change.Nothing more.Nothing less.
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#87360 - 04/09/07 02:24 PM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Catalyst]
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That's not what I read. Seemed to me that the point was limiting the characters and setting a level playing field with established rules that couldn't be just brushed aside at player's whim.

I did read all the categories on 2009s rules being discussed and established even if I did just join the game.

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#87365 - 04/09/07 02:40 PM Re: Are the 2009 rules set in stone? [Re: Chance]
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Originally Posted By: Chance
...It seems pretty apparent from the reaction so far that a majority will not want the xp rules to change.
The XP rate was one of the most hard faught issues of the board's development. We ended up with a three way tie with one third of the voting board wanting 4, one third wanting more, and one third wanting less. IMHO the rate is a can of worms best left unopened.

Originally Posted By: Chance
Personally, I don't think this is a good idea because then people will be advancing at unpredictable rates, which I understand is one of the reasons for setting up 2009 in the first place. Plus you will end up with people getting their feelings hurt because their totally awesome post didn't earn bonus xp, and the arbitrators will be getting pestered to give it out.
Agreed and well put. It's like tossing out a gold apple with the words "for the fairest" on it.

And note there are other reasons not to do this on top of these, the overhead and upkeep on this sort of thing would not be small.
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