Hmm, dunno.

My brother's the one with the baseball fixation, not I.

No one is twisting your arm sister.

I never understood the fascination that men have for sports. I mean, what is it with tossing around a ball, that maks guys forget your in the room?

I'm actually pretty sure its the occasional 'Man on Man' contact. I mean, that makes me forget most things.

Honestly, if you're so off put at the concept of sports feel free to uninvite yourselves to our gathering. I'm not about to cater to malcontents.

Wow. And I thought Solstice was self-centered.

It's not just men that enjoy sports- until recently, I was on an athletic scholarship at Penn State. You learn a lot from sports (even if you ignore the obvious physical benefits)- teamwork, self-discipline, the ability to think and react quickly, and the drive to always push yourself just a little bit farther. It boosts your self-esteem, promotes camaraderie, and instills a sense of respectful competition.

...Not to mention the great practice you'll get trash-talking. It's not for everybody, though. Some people just aren't willing to get dirty in the pursuit of a good time.

I, myself, like sports.

I figure skate and swim. I mean, you could argue the validity of them being 'sports', but I also like watching live football, baseball, and hockey games.

And sometimes basketball, but only when I am with friends.

Cool! I'm a little too gung-ho to be a figure-skater, but I remember watching the Olympics with my parents and the skating events were their favorites. Watching live games is okay, but being a spectator isn't quite the same, though. It's definitely a very, very distant second to actually competing.

Oh, and welcome, Tessa!

It is fact that if a man/woman is interesting and inventive enough he/she can hold a man's/woman's attention no matter what is transpiring on the television.

If they have trouble with being ignored while sports are on, I suppose it says something about how interesting they are.

Yeah, uh. When did you become such a dick?

It's not that I don't like sports, but whenever they are on, men tune out their wives and girlfriends. It would just be nice if men could watch sports and pay attention to you at the same time.

Or the wives and girlfriends could find other things to do than latch onto their men for an hour or two? Maybe try to develop their own interests?

Most of the women who complain about said men watching sports would keel over if their men said they couldn't go shopping or something. You get your time, give him his.

Own interests? Why would a man need any other interests, when he's with me. What is in my interest, is also in his. It's not like he will spend 24/7 with me.. What he does in his own time is his thing...but when he's with me, that is another story.

Don't you hate it when you go out with a guy, and then he sees a game on the tube. All of a sudden; it's like you no longer exist.

It's not just men, sister. I played two years of varsity baseball, and have a baseball scholarship to the University of Iowa.

Because, and this might be a news flash, no one person is the center of the universe? I have a hard time believing any self-respecting man would be willing to put up with that attitude.



Not really. If I'm going out with a guy, it's because we have similar interests and I think he's possibly someone I can respect and whose company I can enjoy. Chances are, I'll pull up a chair and watch it with him, if only to see how he reacts as the game unfolds. I've never had a problem with guys forgetting I exist while watching a game, but maybe it's just a difference in attitude.

Why does that question set off warning bells with me?



Yeah, that's a Lamprey Alert alright.



As a guy, I've never done that. I hope I never will.

I'd run to you and hug you, but you just walked into another room. And Divine, I understand how you feel. I mean, assuming you are not just with him 24/7 like someone else is assuming. He his time with you, and time away from you. His time with you should be with you, game be damned or not.

I'm deleting what I put here, originally, because it's just wasted invective.

I wish both of you luck with your romantic endeavors.

Uhh.. thank you?

I am so confused!

Someone who understands what I'm saying. Lina, we have to go clubbing together.

Actually, I like to keep several guys around me. You should see what they are willing to do, in order to please me. It is like it's own sporting event, with all these guys competeing against one another. I don't like them fighting each other, so instead, they shower me with gifts; each one, more expensive than the last. And the best part: I don't even have to 'give it up' at the end of the night.

Sorry.. I am not a clubber

And I've got a boyfriend. And I hate it when multiple guys fawn over me. And I am a virgin. But I love gifts.

Now if you wanted to go to a mall and go shopping, or out to dinner, I am down with that.

...

I loooove Shopping! You have got to come to Rodeo Drive with me. It has the best stuff in the world.

Gotta love how threads get hijacked...

I ain't a sports person. Some people are.

You can come too, Tessa!

Lina...I don't mean to chastise, but Gabe's still going through a lot right now, okay? Try not to take his harshness too seriously.



In what way is that the best part? You don't like sex?

If he's going through enough to make himself, an ass, than he shouldn't be here. He's just pissing people off.

And your comment about not taking him seriously reminds me way too much of those girls. The ones who regularly get beat by their drunk husbands, because the good is worth the occassional bad.

EDIT: Haha, I just realized you used the word chastise. It made me laugh.

That was completely uncalled for, Lina. The fact that I'm willing to take Gabe's unhappy mood with a bit of salt in consideration of what he's going through right now in no way indicates that I would or that any woman should put up with domestic abuse. What Gabe said was somewhat rude; that does not make him a wife-beater.

Someone very dear to him died recently. The least he or anyone in his situation should receive is a little tolerance of his unhappiness in his time of grief.

I'm not saying that you do put up with it, or endorse it in anyway. But I do not think I need to sit here and smile politely because he can't socialize with kindness. If he's in a bad mood, he shouldn't show up on the boards and start swinging his grief around in offense to others.

And you can't tell me that offense isn't intended, because that is clear bullshit.

Temper, temper, everybody.

I have been kind enough to open my heart and home up my fellow novas for a day of fun, camaraderie and healthy competition. My current mood has nothing to do with my attitude. What? Are you surprised that because I didn’t show up into a forum spewing kindness and compliments that I’m no longer a sweet, kind, and decent person?

Figures.




It’s when people generalize like this that irritates people. And whenever someone invites other people for an event there always seems to one or two people who feel the need to chime up with “Well, I don’t like so and so…” or “I’m not really into that…”

Why? Why do people feel the need to chirp up with irrelevant information just for the sake of hijacking a thread, or informing us of meaningless information that would have been better kept to one’s self? Do you need attention that badly?

If you do not like sports, then don’t come. Period. It’s that easy. But there is no reason to sit here and begin to insult men as a whole because they would rather watch a football game then notice you’re alive.



It shouldn’t set off anything. Last I heard you’re in a loving relationship. The woman you are with should be your only concern since that is where all your love should be. If other women are setting off your ‘warning bells’ then your heart and mind are still searching for something.



Harsh? How was that harsh? There is nothing wrong with informing others that if they are not going to enjoy the event to not bother showing up to it. It’s the truth; I have no time to cater to malcontents, and neither do my guests and friends. If you are going to show and schlump your way around the place bored and irritated because your not having any fun while everyone is swimming, playing baseball, riding the jet skis, sunbathing, relaxing and enjoying good conversation in the library – poolside – or where ever, then please do not waste my time, or the time of others by arriving just to bring down the liveliness of everyone else.

Go shopping or something.



My appologies. I sometimes forget we have children around. Would holding your nose in the future help the harsh medicine of reality go down smoother? You think because I didn't sugarcoat it with emotes or pretty words that I was being mean? I wasn't, I was being direct.

I'm a man who is about at his limit with the treatment he has received as a nova. I'm tired of the jealousy, the angry looks, the threats, the name-calling, and the super strong muscle heads that think because they can lift a Buick they are the center of the universe.

I have worked my fingers to the bone to try and make this world something worth living in, and most the time my own race has done it's damnedest to tear it down. I give to those with nothing, I sweat for those who cannot work, I make music in the hopes that song can reach out and move the soul. I've built homes for Habitat for Humanity, I'm a Big Brother, hell I'm doing so many things right now that I have no time for a personal life.

But who gets the hate filled looks? His Gallardo keyed, harassed everywhere goes because some moron is afraid I'll steal his girlfriend. I've had a brick launched through a window because some guy thought his girlfriend was at my place just because they had seen me earlier that day. At the Blackburn I was stared down, scoffed at, harassed, and threatened. And all by whom? My people, my race, my ever so wise bothers and sisters of a species that calls itself 'evolved'. Pathetic.

I give and I give, and all I get back is abuse.

I'm done. If you novas want to make the world a better place, go for it. Start thinking of the kind of world you would like to live in, because I sure as hell am not going to be helping with it anymore. My starting advice would be:

1: Get off your back.

2: Think of someone other than yourself. You're not all that.

3: Grow up.

4: There's more to life than Ampwell and naked parties.

5: Look up 'Selfless'.

I'm done. I’ve had enough.

Okay, so. Let me get this straight, okay?

You do good. You do good for everyone. You make music to touch the soul, and if a little body touch on the side happens.. who cares, right? In return, jealous little boys decide they don't like you. They see you as a threat. You're 'trying' to take their 'ball'.

Have Lib, Tessa, Ravenshire, or I? I mean, I am just curious.. because I don't remember doing so.

Since the topic is already on self, and not saying Hi to Tessa, I am just going to keep going.

I am white. I'm a real Snow White. I am fucking worshipped as a holy being. Do you think I want this? Everywhere I go, no one acts right towards me. Those 'little boys' who throw rocks through your windows will never stop hitting on me. I can't just have normal friends. Do you think I really want this? And what is my direct benefit? I can shine like a light bulb. You can create music, and whatever else you do. I can light up a small room. So now you want to be a dick because people aren't groveling you for doing them a good? Because humans are being humans, and Nova's are being humans?

I think I understand this logic. Oh, wait.. thats the wrong word, Logic is.

'Boys will be boys'. I don't spend my time helping the world because I do not want to. I'm not sure this world is worth helping. But just because I've seen people at their god damned worst doesn't mean I am going to turn and start yelling "Penis" to everyone who crosses my path. You don't want to help people? Fine. Don't. You want to be a dick? Fine. Do.

But maybe you want to do it to the people who deserve it, and not the most convenient target.

That's my advice, take it or leave it.

The moment abusive language is used a speaker loses their credibility. Your age is showing.

The advice has been left.

Oh, man. Priceless.

I say fucking once, and not even as an insult. Yeah, zero credibility.

Man, it's a good thing no one else swears.

EDIT: Oh, yeah. And I said you were being a dick. Not that you are a dick, but you are playing the part of a dick. Sorry, I must've missed that the first time around. Also, I forgot this apparently isn't the 2000's. My bad.

Are you familiar with the concept of "empathy," Lina? Reading over your posts here, you don't seem to be. If not, it might be a good idea to cultivate a little in yourself, especially if you're still planning on taking a job in which you often have to deal with the public.