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#93393 - 08/02/07 02:48 AM
Re: Chapter 5: Breaking New Trails
[Re: Mr Fox]
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Baseline
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Phillip pipes up "I understand that there is a lot that you can't tell us. Fine. With this problem, you have created another problem if I am not mistaken. You ask us to change your friend because of what he HAS become from your point of view. If we do as you suggest, how will you be able to make the suggestion in the first place? Can you give us a message to give to you or something? You have more experience in time travel, could you tell me what will happen if we succeed. Or can you just give us a message for yourself? I definatly want to change the future for the better, but if we can truly create a paradox, I belive the consensus is that it would be bad." Phillip then says the the group "But if we do include him, how? Make him one of us? An advisor? Delegate things to him? As I see it, we either tip our hand and pray he stays of the low-taint path, or we placate him, which he is to smart to fall for... do you think... if we give him enough information to understand the consiquenses, including the consiquenses of him knowing to much, then we might be able to include him, say, in helping us evaluate our changes. That would also give us ongoing insight into his definition of 'right'" Phillip, realising he has just monologed, sits back down and looks mildly embarised (although not as much as he used to in these situations).
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#93442 - 08/03/07 12:23 AM
Re: Chapter 5: Breaking New Trails
[Re: Mr Fox]
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Nova
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Listening to the exchanges, Omar was shocked to see such passion from the others around him. At one point, Omar thought that Andrew was going to attack Max, and he readied himself to prevent harm to Mercer. If anyone was integral to Aeon, and indeed the future, Max was. It hurt Omar to have to pick sides in the issue.
When Andrew backed down, Omar was relieved.
"I would hope that if an even happened that results in the destruction of humanity, that you would let us know." He says to Mercer with a stern expression. "As for what to do with Divis Mal...I mean Mr. Donighal, I think that letting him in on the plan would be a dangerous gamble."
"Two scenarios could arise from such a course of action: One, Donighal appreciates that we tell him, and he moderates his positions. Or two, He resents that his position of power is compromised, and he seeks to work against us."
"Oh and one other thing...didn't Divis Mal have a way to deal with taint? If so, would he still be able to develope the process if his philosophies change?
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#93444 - 08/03/07 04:20 AM
Re: Chapter 5: Breaking New Trails
[Re: Ziggurat]
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Morgan listens to Omar, "Well, he did develop a way to deal with taint, but it was by channeling taint and trying to focus it, not erase or prevent it. And given his actions, he was at the very least more than half taint mad by the time of the war. Plus, if you look at his followers, many of them were the worst of the tainted aberrants, and they were the ones that had the 'secret'. Personally, I think the best we can hope to do at this point is to educate novas in how to avoid the taint and create a culture that encourages novas to focus on maintaining their humanity."
"As for informing Donighal, I don't think we can pick anything other than one of the two extremes, either we bring him full in or we eliminate him altogether. Max here has indicated that keeping him on the outside of our counsels will not work out. I hate to be cold blooded about it, but as a military man in my former life, there's one thing I know with every fiber of my being, and that is half measures are always the worst thing you can do. Either we harness his brilliance and make it work for us or we prevent the threat from ever developing."
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#93460 - 08/03/07 01:58 PM
Re: Chapter 5: Breaking New Trails
[Re: SkyLion]
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Andrew shakes his head, "You guys need to think like a team, I may not be able to take on powers and abilities, well some I can but that's beside the point. If we need somebody to back a plan publicly, if we need a figurehead to speak for our cause, between my capacity to take their form, and Cody's ability to enter thier mind we can do what we need to do."
Looking at Morgan Andrew just rolls his eyes, "And reprogramming people is acceptable, warm, and fuzzy? I think not."
Turning to the rest, "You want to save billions? I do too, but eventually we're going to find somebody who's mind is too strong for Cody to manipulate. What's your plan then? What if Mal wants no part of our plan? Is he better dead or 'alive'?"
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#93499 - 08/04/07 04:05 AM
Re: Chapter 5: Breaking New Trails
[Re: Courier]
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Nova
Registered: 08/03/04
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Max frowns at Andrew's comments, "I don't approve of those kind of tactics, but if it becomes necessary then I'm sure you will all do what you have to do."
He nods and smiles at Steve's comments. "That's the approach I've come to know and respect. I think that you'll find Michael will be much more of an asset than a liability if you include him. He improved a great deal between the original version from your own timeline and the unaltered version from this timeline that I saw on my trip to the future."
He becomes very serious and says, "I guess this is my first test of whether or not I will create paradox. If he changes because I've given you this warning, then I will be greatly relieved. If he doesn't, or becomes worse, I would not stand in your way if you decided to take action. Better that the billions be saved than one man no matter how close a friend he is."
Brightening a bit, "So if you all agree, to include him, I have invited him to my home for dinner next week. I've told him it will be a small affair with others of our kind to discuss the future. I hope you all will attend." He looks around to see if you all have any other business that requires his attention, if not he will shake hands with everyone and make his way to the door.
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#93982 - 08/12/07 05:46 PM
Re: Chapter 5: Breaking New Trails
[Re: Mr Fox]
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Baseline
Registered: 05/28/07
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Bradford paused, unsure of how to begin. "After I was recruited by this group, I spent a lot of time researching "future history", for lack of a better term. I can't remember the exact source, but a few of the experts of the subject of Inspireds and Novas, feel that her betrayal of the Aeon society due to her unrequited love of Donighal and her subsequent death was the catalyst that changed Donighal into Divis Mal." To the others, after the phrase "a few of the", Bradford's words come out as though from a recording or being read directly off a page. (Any careful observer's will notice his eyes flickered different colors briefly)
"With that in mind, maybe it's for the best to either not recruit her for the Aeon Society, or at the very least keep her out of harm's way? Or maybe just give her the heads up on his, 'personal status' before things become awkward."
Bradford lit a cigarette, took a quick puff, and smiled. "That's my 2 cents. But, then again, I'm just the magician."
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#94205 - 08/16/07 02:51 AM
Re: Chapter 5: Breaking New Trails
[Re: Courier]
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Nova
Registered: 08/03/04
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The time passes and the evening of Mercer's dinner comes around. His mansion is elegant but understated. It is obvious that he has both a great deal of money and taste, or at least whoever decorated did. When you arrive you are greeted at the door by a butler and he escorts you into the library where Mercer and Donigal wait already seated in comfortable leather chairs with drinks in hand. When you enter Mercer stands and greets you with his usual charm and offers to pour anyone drinks that is interested. He also introduces everyone to his good friend Michael Donigal.
Michael stands and sets his drink down and shakes hands with everyone. He seems to be a little curious as to the nature of the your group, but is very polite in greeting everyone. Though he is an impressive man who is plainly very intelligent, he doesn't seem to have quite the presence you have always known him to have in the videos you've seen of Divis Mal. He is of above average height, has blonde hair and piercing eyes that seem to read more than the average person in what he sees.
Once everyone is seated and served drinks, Max will break the ice. "Thank you all for coming. I know my friend Michael for one is likely curious as to the purpose of this gathering. Aside from hopefully providing you all with some more than passable food, I wanted to give Michael the chance to meet you all and vice versa." He turns to Donigal and smiles warmly. "Michael, I know that you have spent the last year adjusting to your new circumstances and studying how you have changed, and as you know I have also changed somewhat as have others that were at Dr. Hammersmith's ill-fated gathering as well as others who were not there." Turning back to the group and gesturing broadly at you all, "These individuals, some of whom you may recognize as having been at that event are like us, and I wanted to make sure that you made their acquainted as I have. I hope that you will find each other to be enjoyable company." Looking back to Michael with a grin, "I think you will find these people to be not only excellent company, I think you might find an association with them to be quite rewarding in terms of satisfying your curiousity."
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#94313 - 08/19/07 12:05 AM
Re: Chapter 5: Breaking New Trails
[Re: Ziggurat]
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Registered: 09/27/06
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Steve nods and says,
"We'd love to. On a personal note I'd like to challenge you to a game of chess at some point, there's not many who can play at my level and I'm guessing you can."
Steve sighs and shrugs,
"At least the time travel thing we've got solid proof on. Not that we dare travel in time much any more, we're pretty much stuck here. Hammersmith changed something fundamental and we're still trying to figure it out."
"But there's a fair amount else going on for which we don't have proof. We have records, we have personal experiences, but we don't have proof. I can tell you that the world is about to enter a period of darkness, but since we're actively working to stop it and since history has already diverged a lot from what our records say it may not mean anything."
"Similarly, I can tell you that there are at least three to five different sets super-folk, and that our type, novas, which includes you but not Max, is by far the rarest in this era."
"In a nutshell, the world faces two big threats, one internal, one external. The lesser one is a group of aliens who don't like the idea of other space faring races around and are willing to exterminate potential rivals. They're nasty but they aren't here, and to tell the truth I'm not all that worried about them. By the time they show up humanity should be ready to deal with them."
"The real problem is 'How will mankind integrate Novas and other super-foke into society?' We Novas are by far the most powerful and least stable of all the super-foke. When more and more of us show up, and we will, there's a very good chance that society will tear itself apart and we'll end up with a massive ugly war."
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#94445 - 08/21/07 11:46 PM
Re: Chapter 5: Breaking New Trails
[Re: Courier]
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Donigal raises an eyebrow at the mention of chess.
"Hmm... To address your points."
He smiles, "I accept your challenge and look forward to matching wits with you in a game of chess, or perhaps many games. As you say, it is difficult to find a decent opponent."
"As for the rest. I am more than willing to accept your word until and unless such time I find you less than honest, but as you are all honorable people I doubt that will be a problem."
He sits forward in his chair and allows a certain amount of interest show in his face as he continues, "So you say there are more groups of Homo Superior than just our own? I had begun to suspect this in my own research, but it is in the very preliminary stages and with limited subjects to observe I have been limited in the conclusions I can make. I will look over everything you have on this matter and share with you what little I have found so far."
"As for the threats, I am sure we can face anything that comes our way. Given the rate of progress I would surmise we should be capable of interstellar travel in less than 100 years, and with your assistance no doubt we will reach that milestone even sooner."
As he finishes his words, the butler enters the library and with a look to Max for permission announces, "Dinner is served; if you will please follow me." He waits politely for everyone to rise and follow before leading you into a large but somehow cozy dining room, with a large table just the right size for everyone to gather around. As everyone is seated other servants enter and serve the first course.
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#94450 - 08/22/07 03:31 AM
Re: Chapter 5: Breaking New Trails
[Re: Anonymous]
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Baseline
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Phillip motions for a servant, and asks for them to serve a 'human' portion for him and Elizibeth, as they didn't have the varatious apitite of the others.
When everyone settles, Phillip asks Donigal in a idle conversation voice (or at least tries to) "I was wondering about 'Homo Superior' Donigal. This lable suggests that we are 'more' than everyone else. While we are definatly more capable, the same could be said of a 'normal' person in comparison to someone who is disabled." Phillip pauses a moment. "We call ourselfs better than the animals because we can reason, but not all 'Homo Superior' are gifted with enhanced minds. If that where the deciding factor, then I would not be one. What about Plato, Homer, Michelangelo? They where smarter than a lot of 'Homo Superior', does that make them one? Oh, and could you pass the water?"
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#94479 - 08/22/07 01:34 PM
Re: Chapter 5: Breaking New Trails
[Re: Mr Fox]
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Nova
Registered: 09/27/06
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Steve waits till any servers aren't in the room then says,
"We were called 'Homo sapiens novus'. It was mostly a popular media thing, but being named after an exploding star isn't bad. The other two groups, and for that matter the other nova-ish sub-group, were unheard of in our future and didn't get names. We visited an alternative future where one of the other groups were called | | | |