Good, and let's keep it 'elsewhere' on a PUBLIC OPNET SITE, shall we?

:headdesk:

If you want help, contact me, and I'll see what I can do. If not... nothing I can do if you want to throw your life away.

So sad. You sound like a guy who brings the party with you. Let me know when you're in town, next time.

Did you really go around eating people in L.A.? That is horrible, I could have been one of your meals.

Paramancer, he doesn't need to be saved.

He instantly travels place to place ... oh joy.

Okay, like what's the penalty for joining a hunting party out to take Dustbin down? I haven't heard anything. I'm just asking.

Dustbin, come by a major Project Utopia center and let us try and help you. We have some of the best nova specialists on the planet. For not only your sake, but for the sake of other novas, please come in. We want to help.

You sound like police, Utopia man. I done with deals with police. They don't help me. They lock me away.

You want to hunt me, Emerald? Why you not leave me be? I not hurt you? Why you make me angry?

I WILL HUNT YOU INSTEAD!

We have doctors and scientists, Dustbin. Whatever injustices you have suffered in the past, we can work past them.

If I tell you were I am will you come and get me?

I think not.
You aren't even worth playing with. You're pathetic.

I AM NOT PLAYING!

Great. So he gets hunted by the cops and possibly brought in to become a Utopian lab rat, or he gets hunted for sport.

Fuck me, why am I even trying?

Tut-tut.

I am not afraid of a boogeyman like you. Did you already eat everyone you ever cared about? Do you now have to go shopping on the net for your next meal?

blah, blah - I travel instantly about -
blah, blah - I turn people to ash -

blah, blah - You bore me.

The desire to help others shouldn't fade in the face of adversity. Keep caring. Keep trying.

This isn't adversity, Ravenshire. This is a slow-motion train wreck.

I'll lay you any money he's already been targeted by the Directive and PU for what he's posted here. And I have good reason to believe he'll get liquidated if he's caught. I can't go out of my way to help him if he doesn't want help. But this has got to be the most un-evolved display I've seen in a long time; I was hoping that shit was behind me.

Paramancer, how do you track down a teleporter?

Mind you, I'm not a big fan of Dustbin, but I'm not on the lynching committee either. I figure he didn't wish this hunger on himself. He does something I have moral qualms with, but I try not to project my own morality on others.

As Primal put it, he is the way he is. I have to figure if that's something I can live with. I hope you understand I have problems with a fellow nova that eats other sentient beings. We (novas and baselines) aren't cattle or chickens. There is, in my mind, a difference between the food animals we eat and being eaten ourselves. I also know I'm not alone in believing that.

Maybe I'm not a fan, but it bothers me how this poor bastard is pushing buttons and bringing out the Springer audience in everyone, most likely without the slightest chance he could have done anything about it.

He needs help. Help that I can't give him, and I doubt PU has anything up it's sleeve other than lifelong incarceration or death. And everyone runs out of juice sooner or later.

I did what I could. If he can be helped, he'll be helped. If not...at least I did what I could.

You are not alone in your observations of this fiasco.

Hello my love.

Uh...hi?

I swear your name is familiar...

The love part was to Ravenshire, as he well knows.

I erupted last year and have been with the movement since then.

Do you think you might be able to help Dustbin? He seems like he could use it.

If he needs our help, he can ask for it. Right now, you should respect his desire to be a hunter and a killer. I know demons and they are not the "saving" kind. When he is ready to tear back the next veil of reality, he will seek us out, believe me.
I am the Dark Spiral - Death, and I see the ending of all things. I understand his desire to be ... what he is, outside of the conventions of his old existance.

See Paramanter, you haven't been here a day and already you've made a new friend.

You assume he enjoys being as he is. I'm not sure that's the case.

Anyway...

Bottom line, the guy can't be allowed to go around incinerating people and consuming their remains. So he has to do it to survive, the condition was forced on him, yada yada yada. Those arguments are all well and good right up to the point where he starts munching on your friends and family.

Apparently he isn't interested in restricting his dietary habits to the recently deceased (and that'd cause quite a fucking stir among baseline society in and of itself). Nor is he interested in seeking help from Project Utopia. So it's pretty much either Teragen or "lead projectile". Probably both.

Drew--he compared Project Utopia to the police of his homeland. Apparently, they aren't a savory bunch, no pun intended. I don't think he has a frame of reference for Project Utopia.

Of course, given what I think of PU, I'm not sure I want to disabuse him of that.

And careful of how you judge him, brother. Taint moves in mysterious ways, as does politics. It may be you being hunted down, and I'm sure you'd want sympathetic voices out there for you.

What it boils down to is I have a problem with people killing people. Call me crazy, but something about it offends my archaic sensibilities. And I'd like to think that if I was in such a position, with no out, I'd be able to do what needed to be done.

What do you think will happen to him if he's caught?

And why do we kill people who kill people if killing people is wrong?

If I may:

Killing is not universally wrong. We kill in war, on the battlefield, without it being considered morally wrong. Policemen kill in the line of duty. Citizens kill in self-defense - key word her self-Defense.

Since we as individuals have decided we don't want to be killed, we empower society to kill in our defense, or (in certain national and provincial cases) in retribution for our deaths.

The point we have to face here is the specter that Dustbin can not be contained. Not because he can 'poof' away, but because we can not feed him in a way he can survive. Essentially, we starve him to death. Its a tough case.

What he said.

To quote some guy, the right to swing your fist stops at my nose. And if you don't respect that, I'm allowed to temporarily break the fist-nose rule in defense. You started it, after all.

Frankly, Dustbin scares me. Both in the fact he considers me tasty food and the fact that any of us could end up with his fate.
What I wonder about is that with all the brainpower we have assembled we can't come up with another solution besides kill or be killed.

Tell me about it, bro. Tell me all about it.

I fear dolphins.

Dude, I wish I had the brains to cure him and give him his life back. I really do.

But I'm just extra-lovable. That's it. And I don't want him baking me into ashes and eating me. Or anyone I love. I'd be put into a position of die or kill. That's not right, and I hope he gets the treatment he needs.

He needs more than the world can offer. I can sympathize, but I can't help him.

Dolphins have their own secret language and they aren't afraid to speak it in front of us. Scary indeed.

Dusty, you around you little maimed Scarf-monkey?

I had to hunt down some underwear and I thought of you.

YOU taunt ME! I will consume you! I will savor your essence!

Sexy thoughts, Emerald?

Dustbin....are you my father?

You damn well better savor my essance. I hate not being appreciated.

Listen, you don't have the tongue to really know what eating a girls is all about, so why don't you let me school you - provided you promise to bathe.

wow and I thought most of you were out of high school.... It seems lame jokes continue into adulthood...

Razor, only someone just out of high school wouldn't know that.