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#97808 - 12/04/07 03:52 AM HEROES
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The end of season 2 has left me bitter, upset, broken, and angry. I know it's just a TV show, but I expected so much more than this horrible mess.
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#97811 - 12/04/07 06:57 AM Re: HEROES [Re: Ashnod]
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I thought it was really upsetting. Except for the part about Adam. (Who figured Hiro for such creativity!). Also, Sylar is back. But yeah Ashnod, it really is a mess.

I will be there for Chaper 3.
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#97813 - 12/04/07 08:04 AM Re: HEROES [Re: Changeling]
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Well consider also the impact of the writer's strike on not just Heroes but all of tvland. 11 episodes for a season is a bummer but I'd rather they end a bad chapter early so they can move on to fresher ideas.

Also, Tim Kring (sp?) has come out and admitted he bungled the beginning episodes as well. He's been quoted as saying one of his big mistakes was to leave Hero in the past for too many episodes.

That said I was unimpressed with a lot of what went down. I'll be there for chapter 3 however.

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#97816 - 12/04/07 10:22 AM Re: HEROES [Re: Chimera]
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I'm in agreement. This season left me want things to be different, as opposed to wondering how we got here.
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#97846 - 12/04/07 04:04 PM Re: HEROES [Re: Jager]
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I think they stumbled a bit, clearly they thought that people would be willing to go back to the slow buildup of the first half of season one. The bigger problem (IMO) was that introduction of Maya and Muscle Memory Chick who had ZERO impact on the core story arc. *Zzz*

I'll be back for Volume 3 though, I think Sylar is pretty interesting and generally I like how the show is built. I think the producers have made a big step by admitting their mistakes, I'll give them the mulligan and tune in once more...
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#97848 - 12/04/07 04:14 PM Re: HEROES [Re: Callum Uallas]
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I might have to watch season 1 (buy or rent). The more I hear about it the more interesting it sounds for a loosey-goosey aberrant game...
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#97849 - 12/04/07 04:16 PM Re: HEROES [Re: Callum Uallas]
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Don't forget too that this season was severely truncated due to the writer's strike. I'm sure Maya and Monica would have had a lot more to do (and Micah and Niki for that matter) if the season had gone as originally planned.

As many problems as I had with the finale, I can attribute most of them to that. My suspicion is that Kring reset the show back to Season 1 status quo because Season 3 is now "the season 2 that should have been."

In short, he wants a re-do. I'll give it to him. It's not like I'm PAYING for Heroes after all. smile

- Edit: Rev, Season 1 is great. Not so much for Aberrant, but it would be awesome for a lowish-power Mutants and Masterminds game. smile


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#97852 - 12/04/07 04:31 PM Re: HEROES [Re: SalmonMax]
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I've only seen one episode of Heroes, in Oct. It was the episode where the Jap kid teleports with that one dude GF and they steal a kiss and he finds out, and where they get that one girl booted off the cheerleading squad for being a drunk skank and scaring the hell out of her with the flying kid.

Which reminds me, I've been wanting to ask... the High School girl that the flying kid picked up and dropped on the steps from like a story up... what's her power? Invulnerability or something, she fell from a good height and her clothes weren't even dusty.
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#97853 - 12/04/07 04:36 PM Re: HEROES [Re: Revenant]
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She regenerates, I think.
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#97854 - 12/04/07 04:36 PM Re: HEROES [Re: Revenant]
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She's got healing factor/immortality but sometimes they get lazy with the damage to her clothes.

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#97880 - 12/05/07 01:15 AM Re: HEROES [Re: jameson (ST)]
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I enjoy Heroes, though I got into it late because the initial episodes nearly put me to sleep. I still enjoyed Heroes season one even if the ending felt underwhelming and some bits of plotting felt squiffy, such as Hiro spontaneously deciding that he needs a magic sword to get his powers back.

Season Two didn't feel any better or worse than Season One to me - same slow build, same fizzly ending, nice midsection once the ducks were in a row. Serial killer stalking the super-set, the superpeople are spread out all over Hell's half-acre, big dangerous deadly future bearing down on them.

I don't blame them - you can't rewrite your finale that late in the day without it hurting your show. Back twenty years ago with the writer's strike looming over the nascent Star Trek: The Next Generation, they tossed together as many scripts as fast as they could to stockpile up and that's why the initial seasons of that show are so uneven in quality. But it went on to many more fruitful seasons, so I wouldn't give up on the show just yet. If I can still keep watching LOST after the episode with Jack's tattoos, and BSG after the adventures of Helo, M.D., I can give Heroes another shot.

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#97882 - 12/05/07 02:35 AM Re: HEROES [Re: Michael McGee]
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I watched maybe three or four eps of this show and didn't care for it. Some people told me it has to be given time to build steam, but seriously, four episodes. How much more steam need it build?

Also, I don't have a television, so...yeah. As it is, I have to download The Office and House just to see them.
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#97891 - 12/05/07 09:28 AM Re: HEROES [Re: Seph OOC]
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May I join in the chorus for a heartfelt "meh" regarding not just the finale but all of Season 2.

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#97936 - 12/05/07 05:23 PM Re: HEROES [Re: Long Pig Johnny]
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So, I went out and bought Season 1. So far, I have to admit I'm not all that impressed with it. In fact I'm a bit disappointed.

When I get home however I'm going to tear it out of the package and watch it. Hopefully it'll prove me wrong. Right now it's just kinda... I dunno... just sitting there... Not very exciting at all.
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#98081 - 12/06/07 08:20 PM Re: HEROES [Re: Revenant]
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I haven't felt the same suspense this season as I did in Season 1, but I thought it was building nicely enough. It's a shame that the writer's strike caused it to just end abruptly like it did.

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#98102 - 12/07/07 09:45 AM Re: HEROES [Re: Mr Fox]
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Volume 2 was intended to end midway through the second season though I do not know if they had to cut short. My understanding is that they only had to do some minor changes to the Dec 3rd episode for it to serve as the season ender. Basically I think that Volume was was pretty much how it was intended to be. UNfortunately due to the errors that Tim Kring admits he made volume 2 was a bit lackluster until the last few episodes.

The strike does have a bright side. While he may not be actively writing for the show I am sure that Kring is working out how to make an awesome back half out of Volume 3.
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#106123 - 03/05/08 12:38 PM Re: HEROES [Re: jameson (ST)]
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Here's to hoping Volume 3 will impress.
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