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#9915 - 10/17/03 10:02 AM
Underworld vrs White Wolf?
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Nova
Registered: 09/19/03
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Loc: London, England
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Anyone heard anything about a rumour that White Wolf are going to sue the writers of the Vamps vrs Weres film "Underworld". A friend mentioned they were sicking the lawyers on the film-makers saying they'd ripped off a White Wolf storyline?
Wasn't a great film, but I didn't anything that could be considered to have been stolen from the big Wolf.
Enquiring minds want to know.
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#9917 - 10/17/03 11:22 AM
Re: Underworld vrs White Wolf?
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Loc: London, England
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All is revealed. Cheers Chosen.
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#9918 - 11/02/03 12:22 PM
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Registered: 07/23/01
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Loc: Tokyo, Japan
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So, how many people who know Vampire:The Whining have actually seen this flick?
Just curious as to how close it is to WW's stuff.
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#9919 - 11/02/03 02:27 PM
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Registered: 05/19/01
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Eh...
It has similarities, most noteably the fact that a vampire/werewolf would be considered and CALLED an Abomination.
Other than that, it kind of ends there with the exception of the "Gothic Punk" atmosphere.
There's also the idea that vampires and werewolves were spawned from the same progenitor's children, which if you are up on your Vampire lore in WW, can be referenced to the whole Caine begat Enoch, who begat Ennoia, whose mortal children were the Romany and the Garou (werewolves), and whose vampiric children were the Gangrel.
There isn't MUCH of a connection, but it can be drawn.
In my opinion, anyway.
Really, it's the look and feel of the movie playing out like someone's WoD game that struck me. Ergo, made no sense, didn't stick the the rules it had established for itself, and basically had ST intervention whenever something NEEDED to happen that seemed impossible.
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#9920 - 11/02/03 02:36 PM
Re: Underworld vrs White Wolf?
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Registered: 05/24/03
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The biggest thing they have is a story, the main werewolves past is linked to said story, and basically are one and the same.
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#9921 - 08/23/04 01:50 AM
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Registered: 09/18/00
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Strike 1) White Wolf claimed the script was ripped off of one of their stories. --Reality: I've seen nothing to convince me that Underworld HAD a script. Or a plot. Or continuity. Strike 2) White Wolf contends 60 points of similarity. --Reality: I think this includes things like "Vampires exist," "Vampires have pointy teeth" and "Vampires have a bad reaction to sunlight." I don't know. As previously noted, the primary thing is that they hybrids are called "abominations." Strike 3) I didn't see anything in the trailers that made me think "sitting in the dark crying." --Reality: That's just not White Wolf. I haven't read this story. I would like to think they didn't write something as overall weak as the plot for Underworld. I think it's pretty ridiculous to claim market confusion. I also think it's pretty asinine of such a derivative body of work complaining about copyright infringement. However, if White wolf wants to throw around money playing Puffy Daddy ("we invented vampires and a dark atmosphere"), who am I to complain? Hell, their lawsuit got me curious about the movie, which is the only reason I went to see it.
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#9922 - 08/23/04 02:12 AM
Re: Underworld vrs White Wolf?
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Registered: 03/24/04
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Loc: Devries Compound, Pretoria
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Huh. I didn't know about this lawsuit until this very minute (Thanks for the PR links, Chosen), but I remember thinking when I saw Underworld, "White Wolf is gonna sue sombody". I thought I was making an internal joke, but apparently not.
By the by...I thought very much the same thing when I saw the movie "Supernova" about a week after I bought my Aeon rules.
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#9923 - 08/23/04 02:43 AM
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Registered: 09/18/00
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Loc: New England, USA
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I'd be more worried about Marvel suing, since their character "Nova" predates White Wolf's Aberrant. I'm nor sure if Market Confusion is quite merited here, but I think the link's closer than that of Underworld vs WoD.
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#9924 - 08/23/04 02:58 AM
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Registered: 03/24/04
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Loc: Devries Compound, Pretoria
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ummm...what? I'm not talking about the use of a word, I'm talking about the idea of genetically altered humans gaining powers beyond that of mortal man and becoming the bane of space-travelling humans existance. The very concept of both Aeon and "Supernova"...although the title is that of Aberrant's fictional Spielberg movie as well.
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